Neptune Sky, not happy at all!

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I am not really somebody who wants to be on the bleeding edge at all, but if somebody buys a new-to-the-market light and then has complaints, then it is on them. It is easy enough to wait and see how things work out before making a change. Price is no guarantee of anything, other than that money leaving your account. Caveat emptor, mostly, unless the manufacturer has lied to people, but even then, when has ANY LED company had totally accurate representations about power, spread or intensity? They are always best-case and not real-case.
 
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Sky vs Chinese black box…. You judge based on par if sky is worth it

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What par? That's spectrum
 
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I disagree on the value of the tasks. They are a bandaid on a ancient foundation that is far out of date. Do they work? Most yes. However when thing don’t work together, I.e. set a V/O for maintenance and say, turn the heaters and skimmer off when it on.
Good luck with “fixing” any of it when it doesn’t work.

in the world we live in today, there’s no reason to have a product that requires line by line coding with limited functionality and requires every line of code be in the proper order or things simply don’t work.
Here’s another example of how dated the Apex is.

Setting up my Klir filter on my Hydros I set an alarm to alert me if the filter didn’t roll in 24 hours on the days it was programmed to roll. I set a second alarm to alert me if it rolled longer than it is programmed to roll.

The first alarm took 2-3 minutes on Hydros. It’s not even possible on Apex. Ok, it kinda is, but it’s a lot of long convoluted programming with room for many errors.

The alarm can’t be done either, at least not directly. There is a convoluted work around. With Hydros it was a few seconds to set it up.

The difference. Hydros is a modern more or less WYDIWYG, or at least point and click interface. It’s far more robust and can do many things Apex isn’t capable off. Apex on the other hand is 1980’s (being generous) technology with a bunch of bandaids to try and keep it working.

I get it. Neptune wants to have their own ecosystem. I mean they frequently compare themselves to Apple. That not too smart, it like comparing a 1902 Volkswagen to a 2021 BMW. Add to that you can’t build a ecosystem on cheap Chinese junk or by stealing other companies IP. Especially in a micro industry.

Hopefully BRS puts better management in place and spends money and time addressing core products at Neptune.
1980s? I must know which components are from the 1980s
 
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What's par? That's spectrum
2 questions, the overlay wording has the word (trace) in parentheses, what's that about? Second which is the sky vs the blk box, the white line and graph image?

Iastly you posted an image of spectrum, which I believe all lights are trying to achieve the same or close to the same spectrum for optimal coral health right? In otherworldly brs trys getting as close to ab+ spectrum for all their lighting test, and this is what 90% of the light manufacturers shoot for as that's what customers are wanting.

For par I'd assume the blk box can be cranked up to put out more par then the sky, radions ect. Highest Par really isn't that hard to achieve.

Most blk box suffer from lack of a reliable app/ wifi control.

Here is one for you, my ledzeal.com mirage x200 light mounted 17 inches over my display, and running at 40% per channel is putting 300 par at the bottom of my 400g. 79% pur too.
 

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2 questions, the overlay wording has the word (trace) in parentheses, what's that about? Second which is the sky vs the blk box, the white line and graph image?

Iastly you posted an image of spectrum, which I believe all lights are trying to achieve the same or close to the same spectrum for optimal coral health right? In otherworldly brs trys getting as close to ab+ spectrum for all their lighting test, and this is what 90% of the light manufacturers shoot for as that's what customers are wanting.

For par I'd assume the blk box can be cranked up to put out more par then the sky, radions ect. Highest Par really isn't that hard to achieve.

Most blk box suffer from lack of a reliable app/ wifi control.

Here is one for you, my ledzeal.com mirage x200 light mounted 17 inches over my display, and running at 40% per channel is putting 300 par at the bottom of my 400g. 79% pur too.
Why are you quoting me? I didn't post that comparison.
 

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LED's are over priced garbage! Another victim of hype. T5's here and couldn't be happier! :p Gold standard for a reason kids...
Actually mh is superior to t5, t5 try to mimic mh. Hell every light produced since mh was first used has tried to equal the results. T12,t8,powecompacts,t5,and now leds.

2 400w mh vs 8-12 t5 bulbs for the same coverage, par, ect.
 

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Actually mh is superior to t5, t5 try to mimic mh. Hell every light produced since mh was first used has tried to equal the results. T12,t8,powecompacts,t5,and now leds.

2 400w mh vs 8-12 t5 bulbs for the same coverage, par, ect.
2 400w mh's has more radiant power than 12 4ft t5's based on average watt efficiencies..Around 20% more.
 
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It says MikeandDee
I understand that, I clicked on the image in your post to that person and since it opened up to their post, I thought I could respond to their post.
Don't see what the big deal is for you as I already explained that it was accidental the question going to you. So you can let the thread get back to the light now.
 

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