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They openly admit it does not kill the worms directly. What its meant to do is stop them reproducing so they eventually die out. It interrupts their life cycle. I would be happy to dose it for 6 months if that's what it really does. But that remains to be seen.Based on emails back and forth with FM about AEFW-X... it is clear to me it does not actively target the worms directly. They started bringing up trace element shortages, wanted to see ICP tests, etc. If this was a true biocide / treatment, coral health and water parameters would be irrelevant with regards to the efficacy of targeting the flat worms directly. Add this to the long list of AEFW products that don't actually do what they say they do. I place this in the category of "boosting" (probably not) coral health and possibly a worm "irritant".
They also mentioned doing other treatments in parallel, dipping colonies in other products, basting them off, introducing natural predators, etc as keys to "success"... So they are relying on a kitchen sink approach, which again, clear to me it doesn't work directly on the worms.
I am starting to think this stuff is nothing but snake oil now. 7 weeks on AEFW-X and I am still finding adult flatworms in some of my big colonies. I have even noticed that it takes a good 15 mins for these buggers to come off in certain dips. I tried Melafix at 5ml per Litre and they did not come off the coral. I had to add 0.5ml of Dettol before they eventually came off and they were still twitching. A quick dip is not enough to prevent these pests you need to dip aggressively and with a strong dip otherwise, these things will slip through.
I am going to try the potassium chloride spray method of eliminating these buggers. They are slowly destroying my reef and killing colonies that I have been growing out for two years plus.
Here is a video of the method:
If I recall correctly, Primer isn't cheap. Potassium Chloride (salt) is very cheap.In fact, I see no reason why I couldn't use the spay bottle method with polyp lab reef primer as it its just potassium salts.
Yes but i have Reef Primer on hand so i could just use it.If I recall correctly, Primer isn't cheap. Potassium Chloride (salt) is very cheap.
I am starting to think this stuff is nothing but snake oil now. 7 weeks on AEFW-X and I am still finding adult flatworms in some of my big colonies. I have even noticed that it takes a good 15 mins for these buggers to come off in certain dips. I tried Melafix at 5ml per Litre and they did not come off the coral. I had to add 0.5ml of Dettol before they eventually came off and they were still twitching. A quick dip is not enough to prevent these pests you need to dip aggressively and with a strong dip otherwise, these things will slip through.
I am going to try the potassium chloride spray method of eliminating these buggers. They are slowly destroying my reef and killing colonies that I have been growing out for two years plus.
Here is a video of the method:
I'm on week four of potassium spray .
Zero worms found corals looking better .
Not the first time .Did you see worms floating off the coral the first couple of times you did it?
Do you think reef primer would work for this? It's just potassium salts and I have it to hand?Not the first time .
I was a little nervous about how much and how long to leave the spary on the corals for .
On the second round you bet .
They came off and floated around the tank .
Now i drench them and leave the corals exposed for 15 mins .
Using 1.5 grams per 500 ml of tank water .
I call BS on this.I have been using it for about a week and a half. I can tell you that when I put it in the first time, I saw all the AEFW detach and float around.
I'm not sure to be honest.Do you think reef primer would work for this? It's just potassium salts and I have it to hand?
Sorry to hear you are giving up. None of the three marketed in tank treatments worked for me either. As to killing AEFW with a dip, potassium chloride is the "go to" solution. 3 grams per liter and worms are completely dead within a couple minutes and melted within 5 minutes.So finally just ran out of AEFW-X and I still have the worms. It seems to slow them down but after 3 months of dosing, it and the worms are still present it clearly doesn't work, plain and simple. I have lost 3 massive acro colonies so far and my tank is but a shadow of its former self. I hadn't seen a worm in a while but my big valida colony was slowing stn'ing away so I gave up and chopped it up and low and behold I found a massive flatworm on it. I have some good footage of the worm and how long it took to die in reef primer for an up-and-coming youtube video.
So I think I am going to give up and break the tank down, another hobbyist bites the dust due to these stupid pest-type issues.
If you are in the reefing industry and reading this we need real solutions to these problems or your industry is going to die. It doesn't matter how much it costs, develop drugs or solutions to combat these types of issues.
Sorry to hear you are giving up. None of the three marketed in tank treatments worked for me either. As to killing AEFW with a dip, potassium chloride is the "go to" solution. 3 grams per liter and worms are completely dead within a couple minutes and melted within 5 minutes.
There are other ways to solve for AEFW though without breaking down the tank. People do this all the time:
Not trying to be rude but a lot of people have beaten aefw with a little bit of attrition.Having to watch your prized colonies slowly being eaten away by worms or stn is no fun. The reefing hobby is a sickening hobby for madmen. There are a list of pests and parasites a long as your arm and its so much work and expense maintain it. The hobby is madness IMO