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Hey. On Tuesday I bought a Chelmon, it is currently in the QT tank for observation. since Wednesday I see 3 white spots at the tail. It's hard to photograph him because he's busy. But I marked one of the spots. Please tell me it's not ich
The ich haunts me

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Hey. On Tuesday I bought a Chelmon, it is currently in the QT tank for observation. since Wednesday I see 3 white spots at the tail. It's hard to photograph him because he's busy. But I marked one of the spots. Please tell me it's not ich
The ich haunts me

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Are you currently medicating this QT tank? If observation, you are losing valuable preventative treatment time. Appears to be ich but need more pics of side and overall fins. If Coppersafe, treatment level is 2.25 for this fish with added aeration using airstone and monitoring ammonia with a reliable test kit.
Is fish eating and breathing normal?
 
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Are you currently medicating this QT tank? If observation, you are losing valuable preventative treatment time. Appears to be ich but need more pics of side and overall fins. If Coppersafe, treatment level is 2.25 for this fish with added aeration using airstone and monitoring ammonia with a reliable test kit.
This tank is only for observation. It seemed that the fish was from a certain source.. also after a 3-week quarantine. Unfortunately, I can't treat Chelmon because he already treats other fish also on their own in another tank. Sorry for the crazy post
 

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This tank is only for observation. It seemed that the fish was from a certain source.. also after a 3-week quarantine. Unfortunately, I can't treat Chelmon because he already treats other fish also on their own in another tank. Sorry for the crazy post
Can you explain what this means? BTW - the picture is difficult to interpret - it could be lymphocystis (early) or ich - lymphocystis does not usually start on the body but rather the fins. In any case - many people re-quarantine using copper/prazipro after obtaining fish from another supposedly quarantined source.
 
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Can you explain what this means? BTW - the picture is difficult to interpret - it could be lymphocystis (early) or ich - lymphocystis does not usually start on the body but rather the fins. In any case - many people re-quarantine using copper/prazipro after obtaining fish from another supposedly quarantined source.
I treat fish for ich in the Hyposalinity QT. The fish have been there for less than 2 weeks. I live in Poland and I don't have access to Coppersafe only ion copper, but I've already passed the fallstart. That's why I chose Hippo after consulting with Jay. I ordered this fish long before the epidemic broke out.
 

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This tank is only for observation. It seemed that the fish was from a certain source.. also after a 3-week quarantine. Unfortunately, I can't treat Chelmon because he already treats other fish also on their own in another tank. Sorry for the crazy post
Even when buying quarantined fish, with transport, temperature changes and stress, assume fish has something and do even a short quarantine of 14-21 days. As mentioned, you are losing valuable treatment time.
This looks to be bacterial best treated with seachem Neoplex and added aeration. Can be damage to skin from netting
 

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I treat fish for ich in the Hyposalinity QT. The fish have been there for less than 2 weeks. I live in Poland and I don't have access to Coppersafe only ion copper, but I've already passed the fallstart. That's why I chose Hippo after consulting with Jay. I ordered this fish long before the epidemic broke out.
The hypo salinity protocol is longer than a week - and if this is ich it may be a good idea to do hypo salinity again - if you don't want to use copper. Additionally, can you get praziquantel/prazipro? if so, you could do that protocol as well - as to the dots - its still somewhat unclear (to me) what they are. If you want to add an antibiotic to hypo salinity, that should not be an issue (unless you cannot get antibiotics in Poland - some countries limit them)
 

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I treat fish for ich in the Hyposalinity QT. The fish have been there for less than 2 weeks. I live in Poland and I don't have access to Coppersafe only ion copper, but I've already passed the fallstart. That's why I chose Hippo after consulting with Jay. I ordered this fish long before the epidemic broke out.
With added pics, this is bacterial and not ich.
 

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( I see that @vetteguy53081 thinks bacterial - and I'm not sure) - but I also cannot see the pictures clearly. If worsening, I would treat with antibiotics as mentioned above - and if you want to do a proper quarantine - you can repeat the hypo salinity with prazipro 8 days apart after you finish whatever treatment you can get in Poland.
 

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( I see that @vetteguy53081 thinks bacterial - and I'm not sure) - but I also cannot see the pictures clearly. If worsening, I would treat with antibiotics as mentioned above - and if you want to do a proper quarantine - you can repeat the hypo salinity with prazipro 8 days apart after you finish whatever treatment you can get in Poland.
Worsening- It looks bad and needs immediate treatment as suggested- Seachem Neoplex
 
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Even when buying quarantined fish, with transport, temperature changes and stress, assume fish has something and do even a short quarantine of 14-21 days. As mentioned, you are losing valuable treatment time.
This looks to be bacterial best treated with seachem Neoplex and added aeration. Can be damage to skin from netting
The fish swims in QT and I just wanted to observe it for at least 14 days before moving it to the tank from the reef. In this QT I have a rock with life so I can't add copper or make Hipo. Without worms in the rock, Chelmon will not survive. In Poland, such preventive treatment is not done, we do not even have the right funds like CopperSafe or Prazipro.
 
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The hypo salinity protocol is longer than a week - and if this is ich it may be a good idea to do hypo salinity again - if you don't want to use copper. Additionally, can you get praziquantel/prazipro? if so, you could do that protocol as well - as to the dots - its still somewhat unclear (to me) what they are. If you want to add an antibiotic to hypo salinity, that should not be an issue (unless you cannot get antibiotics in Poland - some countries limit them)

The hypo salinity protocol is longer than a week - and if this is ich it may be a good idea to do hypo salinity again - if you don't want to use copper. Additionally, can you get praziquantel/prazipro? if so, you could do that protocol as well - as to the dots - its still somewhat unclear (to me) what they are. If you want to add an antibiotic to hypo salinity, that should not be an issue (unless you cannot get antibiotics in Poland - some countries limit them)
Will Chelmon stay in Hipo on BlackWorm? Hippo will kill the whole life in the rock, right? Prazipro is unattainable but some time ago I ordered General Cure in the USA, it is on the road.
 

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The fish swims in QT and I just wanted to observe it for at least 14 days before moving it to the tank from the reef. In this QT I have a rock with life so I can't add copper or make Hipo. Without worms in the rock, Chelmon will not survive. In Poland, such preventive treatment is not done, we do not even have the right funds like CopperSafe or Prazipro.
Based on severity od the substance, it does not have 14 days and fish should be treated as mentioned by myself and MnFish upon arrival. For Poland, you can use Waterlife Myxazin or Tri-Sulfa for this.
For copper, you should have access to copper Power - same as coppersafe
 

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Will Chelmon stay in Hipo on BlackWorm? Hippo will kill the whole life in the rock, right? Prazipro is unattainable but some time ago I ordered General Cure in the USA, it is on the road.
Sera Tremezole is same as U.S. PraziPro
 

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Will Chelmon stay in Hipo on BlackWorm? Hippo will kill the whole life in the rock, right? Prazipro is unattainable but some time ago I ordered General Cure in the USA, it is on the road.
The hypo would kill coral, and some inverts (I don't know what you have) - It will not kill the bacteria in the rock. Antibiotics, though, may affect the bacteria in the rock - depending on what you're using.
 
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Worsening- It looks bad and needs immediate treatment as suggested- Seachem Neoplex
I can buy Neoplex in Poland. Are you sure it's not ich? I had ich 3 times and I still don't know how to make it a difference. These "balls" look a little different.
 

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I can buy Neoplex in Poland. Are you sure it's not ich? I had ich 3 times and I still don't know how to make it a difference. These "balls" look a little different.
This is Not ich and sorry for all the confusion going on. These are tufts - bacterial and often a result of skin reaction from injury
 

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I can buy Neoplex in Poland. Are you sure it's not ich? I had ich 3 times and I still don't know how to make it a difference. These "balls" look a little different.
I think they look a little different as well - but - there was another fish with similar spots a couple days ago with the same 'look'. One way to determine if its ich is the some spots drop off And new spots replace them. If bacterial, it will continue to worsen in those spots. If it's viral - it will go away. Neoplex is a good antibiotic to use - in a hospital tank as compared to a display tank.
 

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I can buy Neoplex in Poland. Are you sure it's not ich? I had ich 3 times and I still don't know how to make it a difference. These "balls" look a little different.
Pic is dark to see anything
 

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