No SUMP? No problem! You don’t need it. What else do you not need?

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Have you ever had a reef tank with no sump and how did it go?

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  • YES but it was difficult

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  • NO

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sfin52

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7 yrs no sump hob skimmer 2 power heads and a fluval fx4.
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Many ways to have a successful aquarium!

My preference is always a sump - gives you many options on the setup and equipment, and can make the aquarium look less cluttered.

Hard to say whats not needed. Again my preference is not to use filter socks.
Just to know what do you use instead of filter socks and why? Thanks!!
 

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Just to know what do you use instead of filter socks and why? Thanks!!
3D printed small cups with holes in bottom where socks would go. Put very small piece of filter floss in there and change every 5 days.
 

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I have a FOWLR system 110 gallon, with 2 HOB filters, a Eshopps HOB protien skimmer, and a HOB phos reactor with phos x and nitrate remover. Find it a constant battle keeping nitrates, phosphates and diatoms under control. Constantly doing water changes. If I had to do over would DEFINITELY have a sump ! Disappointed in the challenges this system has presented me . ALWAYS use RODI water
 

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I have a Fluval 32.5 aio. I would not consider it a sump just do to the fact it does not increase water volume in my tank. I have had success with both setups as well as problems with both.

Had the same tank ( wasn't a big fan of the wide "u" shape for scaping) but now I currently have the jbj 28 gallon. Hopefully upgrade again soon. But I really enjoy the simplicity of AIO especially nano tanks.
 

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I stopped with sumps about three or four years ago and will never go back. My biggest tank is 100ish gallons, I glued over the dump holes (acrylic) and just turned the drain into a refugium. No skimmer, I just do H20 changes, swap out carbon every couple months.

Part of me dies inside when I see people paying more for a sump than most tanks cost. It's your money, so you do you, but regular maintenance (wiping things down, h20 changes, looking at the animals to see what's what) always wins over "the latest, greatest" every time.
 

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I just shut that sumpless reef tank down and don't have any recent photos. I set it up as a foster tank (90-gal) for a friend who was moving across state. Wound up running it 18-months using a FX6 canister, Tidal-110 HOB and biopellets. It was fairly easy to maintain and remained healthy until I moved out almost all the livestock. Then man!!! did things go haywire!!! But that was to be expected. Life is all about balance Danielson, go finda balance!

I still have and love my 90-gal FOWLR. It runs on a Oase Biomaster 850 Thermo and a Fiji HOB refugium modified to be an algae scrubber. Rock solid tank and the Oase makes maintenance simple, quick and effective.
 

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Never had a reef tank with no sump but had plenty of freshwater tanks in my day with no sump. I used to think canister filters where the best.. Now I just look at them as nitrate factories.(out of sight out of mind) I prefer the sump setup for sure.
 

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I have a 75 gallon mixed reef running on a cannister filter and a hob skimmer. I do bi weekly water changes sometimes I can stretch it up to a month with no water change.
 

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I ran my first reef tank without a sump for a long time and some of you may have as well. I also ran my first successful reef tank without a ton of gadgets and gear and had a pretty nice reef! Sumps are great because it gives you more water volume, conceals equipment and gives you more options but the fact is you don't have to have it. Today let's talk about stuff you don't have to have to keep a successful reef aquarium.

1. Have you ever had a reef tank with no sump and how did it go?

2. What other items, gear, equipment or gadgets do you NOT NEED to have a nice reef tank?



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So many questions come to mind here. Where are the fish. Can you run a reef tank like mine with 30 fish with no sump????
 

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My 75 gallon. First actual reef tank. Sumpless and uses macro algae, and a cheap air stone skimmer that occasionally runs in an Aquaclear 70. Nitrates always next to nothing, I drip kalk and I perform a water change maybe 4 times a year ranging from 5-15%. I honestly don’t want to transition to the new 125 barebottom with a sump.
 

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I have a 125 gallon with no sum and it only has a HOB protein skimmer, my corals are doing great, fish are doing great so I know it can be done. I personally do not mind the fact that my protein skimmer hangs on the back of the tank. I test and do water changes but I have to admit my tank is more stable in the 125 than it was in my 90 gallon. I have no intention of adding a sump. I have all soft corals and maybe that is another reason the tank is doing so well.
 

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My main 75G reef tank has a large sump, but not these four other new and young tanks that use Aquaclear 70 HOBs for sponge filtration, Matrix, and/or carbon:

75G FOWLR (but will have lots of softies)
14G frag tank / shroom farm
10G Macroalgae, just started
2G office shelf tank with shrooms and hermits.

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DO YOU CARE WHAT THE CORDS AND CABLES LOOK LIKE AROUND YOUR REEF TANK?

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  • NO

    Votes: 37 7.2%
  • Somewhat

    Votes: 167 32.7%
  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 6 1.2%
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