Yes, separate. As for trial and errors, not really. Luckily, it's gone off without an issue. I'm seeing a steady increase in demand, so I in increase the kalk as needed. As of now, the 5 gallon ato lasts about a week, and the 5 gallon kalk lasts 3 weeks.You dose just Kalk to maintain CA ALK. Do you have separate ATO and KALK dosing? I'm thinking about the new Ecotech marine Versa pump to use on a Avast Marine Kalk stirrer. Do you have any trial/errors you could share?