schabiazabi
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I was defrauded by oceancube for $2500. The guy sold me a breeding pair and never shipped them for about 2 weeks. He was coming up with different stories each time. Finally he shipped it today, except he shipped the male only. In the box there were two fish bags. One with water and one without water. Water was spilled all over the box and one bag was fully open. The open bag was staged, in order to make it look as if the fish came out of the bag, but there was no other fish in the box. Thanks god I recorded the entire process and I have a witness with me.
Here is the entire story plus pictures:
I bought a Wyoming Whites breeding pair from oceancube. Paid using Paypal (mass payment) for $2500. Plus I paid $90 extra for shipping, because the seller claimed it's going to be a big box, so I told him I'll pay extra for the safety of animals.
The seller delayed the shipping giving me different stories each day. Every story seemed like a little lie, but since I paid already I had no choice, but to wait for the fish. He shipped them out yesterday and provided me with a tracking number: 800041588780 (FEDEX).
I checked the tracking number and it was showing: Overnight by 3PM. I was not happy as we talked about getting the fish to me by 10AM (I paid extra). When I wrote to him about the shipping time he did not reply. This morning I came home from school and I see a box with fish on my kitchen counter top. I was shocked as it’s supposed to be here by 3PM. The first thing I see is a box that is "over" taped. Tape is all over the box, and I see the box is dripping. I got scared and opened up the box, while my wife is recording everything with pictures.
When I opened up the outside box the white inside box is "over" taped again. Seems strange, but I do not see a problem yet. I open up the white box and I see water everywhere. Water and paper ripped up and spread all over the box. I pull one bag and the fish is there, I search for the second bag and it's there, but it's empty. The bag was open. Right away we start to search for the fish, but I already have a feeling what has happened here. We go through every paper, foam, and board in the box, but nothing. No fish, no smell of a dead fish. Nothing. We went through everything one more time on the floor, but again nothing.
That's when I realized the seller stage fraud. He purposely put an empty bag with tons of water around it to make it look as if the fish came out and something happened. The reason for the over taped boxes was not to spill the water that was floating in there at the Fedex location. (Strangely enough the seller tried to ship the fish few days before and he told me he got caught by Fedex, because the guys at the Fedex location could hear water in the box. I have a feeling he was trying to pull the same trick before, but the box was wet and water was dripping at the Fedex location.)
I called the seller (Rudy Vasquez) right away and he would not communicate. He told me to be a man and he does not care if I sue the him. His replies were illogical, and he did not seem surprised at all. When I confronted him over the email he replied: "put what you want about me but I will defend myself,".
The other fish (male) is doing fine. We will start a criminal investigation, because we were able to record there is no fish in the box when opening. I did not have a good feeling about this transaction and I speculated fraud, due to numerous lies over PM (Private Notifications) on the forum.
The confirmation number mentioned above 800041588780 (FEDEX) turns out was not mine. It was for somebody in RAYNHAM, MA. Chances are the person has the other female, but that is pure speculation. I wish the person from RAYNHAM is from this forum and he/she will PM, or email me at: [email protected]
I contacted the seller in order to refund me the money, or ship me the female. He did not reply to that, and it does not seem as if he ever will make good on the transaction. Therefore I already obtained a police report for the accident, and I have an attorney from San Antonio helping me file a case in Texas as I am in New Jersey.
If you have any information regarding this please help me as fraud is a sersious crime. It will cost me some to run the investigation, but I will make sure the sellers pays for every penny of it.
P. S. In case you have a WW female you just purchased from him, please PM me. I am completely devastated as the pair I thought I was going to have is not here. Not to
mention I setup a separate tank for the breeding pair for about $750.
Here is the entire story plus pictures:
I bought a Wyoming Whites breeding pair from oceancube. Paid using Paypal (mass payment) for $2500. Plus I paid $90 extra for shipping, because the seller claimed it's going to be a big box, so I told him I'll pay extra for the safety of animals.
The seller delayed the shipping giving me different stories each day. Every story seemed like a little lie, but since I paid already I had no choice, but to wait for the fish. He shipped them out yesterday and provided me with a tracking number: 800041588780 (FEDEX).
I checked the tracking number and it was showing: Overnight by 3PM. I was not happy as we talked about getting the fish to me by 10AM (I paid extra). When I wrote to him about the shipping time he did not reply. This morning I came home from school and I see a box with fish on my kitchen counter top. I was shocked as it’s supposed to be here by 3PM. The first thing I see is a box that is "over" taped. Tape is all over the box, and I see the box is dripping. I got scared and opened up the box, while my wife is recording everything with pictures.
When I opened up the outside box the white inside box is "over" taped again. Seems strange, but I do not see a problem yet. I open up the white box and I see water everywhere. Water and paper ripped up and spread all over the box. I pull one bag and the fish is there, I search for the second bag and it's there, but it's empty. The bag was open. Right away we start to search for the fish, but I already have a feeling what has happened here. We go through every paper, foam, and board in the box, but nothing. No fish, no smell of a dead fish. Nothing. We went through everything one more time on the floor, but again nothing.
That's when I realized the seller stage fraud. He purposely put an empty bag with tons of water around it to make it look as if the fish came out and something happened. The reason for the over taped boxes was not to spill the water that was floating in there at the Fedex location. (Strangely enough the seller tried to ship the fish few days before and he told me he got caught by Fedex, because the guys at the Fedex location could hear water in the box. I have a feeling he was trying to pull the same trick before, but the box was wet and water was dripping at the Fedex location.)
I called the seller (Rudy Vasquez) right away and he would not communicate. He told me to be a man and he does not care if I sue the him. His replies were illogical, and he did not seem surprised at all. When I confronted him over the email he replied: "put what you want about me but I will defend myself,".
The other fish (male) is doing fine. We will start a criminal investigation, because we were able to record there is no fish in the box when opening. I did not have a good feeling about this transaction and I speculated fraud, due to numerous lies over PM (Private Notifications) on the forum.
The confirmation number mentioned above 800041588780 (FEDEX) turns out was not mine. It was for somebody in RAYNHAM, MA. Chances are the person has the other female, but that is pure speculation. I wish the person from RAYNHAM is from this forum and he/she will PM, or email me at: [email protected]
I contacted the seller in order to refund me the money, or ship me the female. He did not reply to that, and it does not seem as if he ever will make good on the transaction. Therefore I already obtained a police report for the accident, and I have an attorney from San Antonio helping me file a case in Texas as I am in New Jersey.
If you have any information regarding this please help me as fraud is a sersious crime. It will cost me some to run the investigation, but I will make sure the sellers pays for every penny of it.
P. S. In case you have a WW female you just purchased from him, please PM me. I am completely devastated as the pair I thought I was going to have is not here. Not to
mention I setup a separate tank for the breeding pair for about $750.
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