I will only add that my SPS love my Orpheck Atlantik compacts. It's mixed with my LPS. If I was doing an SPS tank I would not hesitate to recommended Orphecks. It's a match made in heaven.
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See this is the sort of thing I personally find annoying..be it fw, sw, or home decor..I’m getting back into this hobby after 10 or so years away. My last tank had 3 400w MH flanked by two VHO on each side. 220 gal ll SPS tank and my coral grew like fire. This time I went with 3 high end LED fixtures. After 4 months I haven’t been impressed - I added T5 hybrid fixture and saw vast improvement- that’s when it hit me. Everything I used in the last that’s now old school - worked really well. I’m now going back to what I used to do - anyone need some LED’s? Also I think the same can be said for CaRx’s people act like you live in the Stone Age for using one - but I don’t have to worry about using 6 different doser’s to deliver what I get from my CaRx and the cost is much lower.
I run the same, but with a 48” spectra with Reefbrites on the outsides of the unit over a 150 gsl tank. Like you, my fixture replaces a heater many months of the year. Couldnt be happier with sps growth and color.Ok.. you peaked my interest..what was the setup? I have a 72" geisseman spectra with two xho blue reef brite strips. Coral growth wise, if anyone says they have a better light, well, they are full of it.
See this is the sort of thing I personally find annoying..be it fw, sw, or home decor..
(disclaimer for jda and NOTE : not telling anyone WHAT they need only how to think about it)
You had 1200 Watts of 90L/Watt lights over your tank plus what ever size VHO's you were running..
Replaced w/ 3 high end LEDs w/ a ??? wattage output....and it wasn't the same..
So what were the LEDS?
I'll guess 570 Watts of LED's..
Was your PAR the same as the prev. setup?
how about PUR? (I'm not a big fan of this metric but others are)
THEN you add MORE (going hybrid) light and things get better..
Gee how surprising....There are probably another 1/2 doz things but lets ignore that for a moment.
Usually when I see things like this I think it's because people get annoyed by what they spent.
I DO understand that..
Expectations on spending ones hard earned cash is normal..
BTW: WPG apparently is still valid..
6:40..
Get my drift? Apples to apples..
Nothing WRONG w/ old school. NOT the point.
MH's work
Hybrids work ect. ect.
No the point is people proclaim LED is the absolute and it’s not. Nothing is. Nor is the PAR measurement itself. It’s not about money - it’s about the absolute and how this hobby has changed. That is my lesson. Lighting is going in a circle back to what it was - look at the new hydra’s and when Tullio’s new light comes out (saw it two days ago) you will understand more of what I mean by that. I believe the puck style LED’s will become a memory.
real reefers that grow coral go with halides
Only ones "I" see proclaiming anything "absolute" are MH's and their magic spectrum..
Oddly even those now "need" supplemental lighting to be er... "complete"..
Thus the MH/t5 or LED/t5..................
Have no love for "puck style" LED's...unless really large pucks..
From "delivery" standpoint, Phillips Coral care and Orphek Atlantik are probably the physically best design.
There are others but either unnaturally expensive or just uncommon.
As to growth or $/mm.. or even spectrum, I'll defer to others..
Designing a blanket of light isn't exactly rocket science..
Hey is this one of his?
Designed one like that for FW year ago..Sorry only on paper..was needlessly complicated for the lower needs of "just plants".
Not the spectrum btw..
I designed this "puck" for a thought project for emulating 6500K MH's..
Nothing but pure white and "violet"..Green part of the curve is the MH's main advantage over "just white" LED's
Gets better w/ the added viosys 420nm diodes..
Lights are only a small part of the equation, there is so much more to the equation, for a healthy Reef tank.It was sold this past week and new owner will see results of growth he's never dreamed Ofer
Light makes 60%+ for the reef tank to thrive in terms of those light loving organisms.Lights are only a small part of the equation, there is so much more to the equation, for a healthy Reef tank.
None. Not spread, not par
It's all important...and it's all complicated...I think that all other things being equal that light is the major component to success. They are after all, photosynthetic organisms.
Emotion has little place in science (unless a passion for the work can be included) but I was surprised at just how little light was needed by this coral. I learned a lot from these brief observations and that in itself is my true reward.