Peppermints in a refugium with tridacna clam and/or flame scallop?

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You mean this type of plant fertilizer?
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I bought some chaetogro and put a bit in the tank, but this is quite a bit more economical...
I use organic kelp concentrate. In my experiences, ChaetoGrow is inorganic & overpriced. I have used several vendors, I am not sure which is best (depending on our definition of best). I went with economical.

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You mean this type of plant fertilizer?
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I bought some chaetogro and put a bit in the tank, but this is quite a bit more economical...
Not sure that has iron and label shows it has 1% chlorine.
 

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I have rfa’s, mushrooms and derasa in my sump. Peppermints and cleaner didn’t bother any of them. They cleaned out the aiptasia. Slowly withered away. I don’t feel that the detritus is enough. You will need to feed them.
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Not sure that has iron and label shows it has 1% chlorine.
0-0-1 refers to the Big 3: N-P-K, so their concentrate has 1% of Potassium and does not list trace minerals.


This is a Norwegian company. Not sure why they don’t list the trace minerals.
 

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0-0-1 refers to the Big 3: N-P-K, so their concentrate has 1% of Potassium and does not list trace minerals.


This is a Norwegian company. Not sure why they don’t list the trace minerals.
Supposedly has metals but not listed and why I'm asking because doesn't appear to be a replacement for ChaetoGro
 

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Supposedly has metals but not listed and why I'm asking because doesn't appear to be a replacement for ChaetoGro
I would not purchase it.

Important information for​

Amazon product
Ingredients
Sulfur,Magnesium,Calcium,Sodium,Boron,Iron,Manganese,Copper,Zinc,Carbohydrates

ChaetoGrow Ingredients:

Guaranteed Analysis:
  • Potassium (K) as Soluble Potash (K2O) (min) 1.30%
  • Boron 0.009%
  • Carbon 0.005%
  • Calcium 0.14%
  • Chlorine 0.39%
  • Cobalt 0.0004%
  • Iron 0.1%
  • Magnesium 0.4%
  • Manganese 0.0475%
  • Molybdenum 0.004%
  • Sulfur 0.16%
  • Zinc 0.002%

PS: When I sent Gracilaria Parvispora to a regional agriculture lab: both Copper & Zinc showed up at 10ppm and 5ppm when makeup water showed zero copper or zinc with a sensitivity of 1 ppb.

Also, the ratio of N/P was 30/1 and the ratio of K/N was 5/1 thus the ratio of Potassium to Phosphate is 150/1.

Note: The only ingredient listed for Maxicrop was Potssium at 1%.
 
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I would not purchase it.

Important information for​

Amazon product
Ingredients
Sulfur,Magnesium,Calcium,Sodium,Boron,Iron,Manganese,Copper,Zinc,Carbohydrates

ChaetoGrow Ingredients:

Guaranteed Analysis:
  • Potassium (K) as Soluble Potash (K2O) (min) 1.30%
  • Boron 0.009%
  • Carbon 0.005%
  • Calcium 0.14%
  • Chlorine 0.39%
  • Cobalt 0.0004%
  • Iron 0.1%
  • Magnesium 0.4%
  • Manganese 0.0475%
  • Molybdenum 0.004%
  • Sulfur 0.16%
  • Zinc 0.002%

PS: When I sent Gracilaria Parvispora to a regional agriculture lab: both Copper& Zinc showed up at 10ppm and 5ppm when makeup showed zero copper or zinc with a sensitivity of ppb. Also, the ratio of N/P was 30/1 and the ratio of K/N was 5/1 thus the ratio of Potassium to Phosphate is 150/1.

Note: The only ingredient listed for Maxicrop was Potssium at 1%.

This and NeoPhos/NeoNitro the only Brightwell products I trust. I use MB7 but not sure it's doing anything
 

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ALSO, anyone know if peppermints will eat baby RFAs? @Ron Reefman ? @jkcoral ?

I’ll never trust a peppermint shrimp.

Only things I’ve seen that are real threats to RFAs are cold water, a broken foot, and peppermint shrimp!
 

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I realize I'm late to the game here, but then I've been busy with clean up after Hurricane Milton. I agree with jkcoral, I would not trust baby RFAs with a peppermint shrimp.

And just a note here, I've had one order of RFAs that were from Central America and 4 out of 5 died in the first 2 weeks. The 5th has survived for months and I feel it's probably OK. I've been hearing more and more situations like mine about RFAs that are NOT from the Caribbean.
 

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Coral Banded Butterfly fish are very similar to opportunistic shrimp. Depending on individual personalities, “It’s hit or miss”. I would not put an expensive CBB in a refugium.

I run high nutrient systems that are skimmerless & filterless, except for cryptic refugium and reverse flow undergravel filter.
Hi there - intrigued by use of reverse flow UG filter - can you please give me details on how you have your system set up? Much appreciated !
 

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