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This ciliate begins to erode from the bottom,Resulting in continuous STN。
A lot of SPS frags have been lost。
I've tried “coral RX” and iodine solution to soak,But there is no effect。
What is the treatment?
Can you help me with what you have to treat it? Thank you all!:)
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This ciliate begins to erode from the bottom,Resulting in continuous STN。
A lot of SPS frags have been lost。
I've tried “coral RX” and iodine solution to invade,But there is no effect。
Can you help me with what you have to treat it? Thank you all!:)
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The following are the pictures under the microscope

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The corals dieing and a dips more than likely just gonna kill it faster. I don't want to assume anything so you need to share more information on your tank. Age, paramaters, LR or dry rock? I've had STN for a number of reason the 2 main ones that cause bleaching or necrosis is "new corals not acclimating properly", sudden alk/nutrient change.

My general rule is give it a day and if its getting worst then cut the top half of the frag into as many reasonable size pieces as you can, glue them to frag plugs or rubble and put them behind the rockwork where their is minimal lighting and different spots. I've saved over 5 frags that where bleaching or RTN/STN and I thought had no shot.. Also, this will help you down the road to understand better placement.. For example, I had a bleaching montipora cap, I threw 3 pieces in the back and 1 loan survivor I was positive was going to die is now growing fast. Also, have a few acroporas that are doing the same thing. Though chance of survival are slim to none if you don't find out what is causing the issue to begin with. This is why doing multiple 25% waterchanges usually is the best bet to stop the problem. Now I alway follow strict light acclimation and have learned just how prone SPS can be to dips, lighting, and everything in between so patients is key!
Also, remember dont get discouraged it happens to us all!!
 
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Also, not sure what those black dots are. I hope its not some kind of pest!!!
Maybe someone can chime in?
thank you!
my tank:
ph:8.0-8.2
ALK:7.7-8.4
CA:420-450
MG:1250-1350
k:360-390
no3:0-0.2
po4:0
400w hqi 12000k reeflux

The problem is mainly caused by insect pests,All other sps that are not infected with this insect are normal。
The black spots in the picture are infected insect pests,Under the microscope, it is similar to the structure of the tube bug, but his size is small.
I don't know what drugs can kill this insect pest
The coral of any property is infected with the insect, Acropora,Montipora,Seriatopora hystrix,Stylophora is no exception.
 

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This ciliate begins to erode from the bottom,Resulting in continuous STN。
A lot of SPS frags have been lost。
I've tried “coral RX” and iodine solution to soak,But there is no effect。
What is the treatment?
Can you help me with what you have to treat it? Thank you all!:)
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The following are the pictures under the microscope

微信图片_20171226173631.jpg 微信图片_20171226173619.jpg 微信图片_20171226173627.jpg 微信图片_20171226173624.jpg
Have you tried Bayer dip?
 

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If it's bug related, use this:
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If that doesn't work, I would frag above the effected area and re mount on a fresh plug.
 
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If it's bug related, use this:
20171226_050733.jpg


If that doesn't work, I would frag above the effected area and re mount on a fresh plug.
;OldmanIs this insecticide safe?Wouldn't it be a joke?
I tried to replant after amputation, but it would be reinfected a few weeks later:(
 

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;OldmanIs this insecticide safe?Wouldn't it be a joke?
I tried to replant after amputation, but it would be reinfected a few weeks later:(
It's no joke. It's all I ever use, and many people use it safely. There is probably a lot of threads about it here, just use the search function.
Many including myself consider it the most effective coral dip out there.
 
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It's no joke. It's all I ever use, and many people use it safely. There is probably a lot of threads about it here, just use the search function.
Many including myself consider it the most effective coral dip out there.
OK, I'll try it. Thank you, but I'm not sure I can buy this insecticide in China.:(Or do you know the chemical composition of this insecticide?I'll try to get the same ingredients for the insecticide.Thanks again!
 
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It's no joke. It's all I ever use, and many people use it safely. There is probably a lot of threads about it here, just use the search function.
Many including myself consider it the most effective coral dip out there.
Its academic name is “Fipronil”?
 
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It's no joke. It's all I ever use, and many people use it safely. There is probably a lot of threads about it here, just use the search function.
Many including myself consider it the most effective coral dip out there.
Is this to be soaked alone or in a reef tank?
 

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It been a couple years since I have done corals, but I used to dip corals in 1:10, bayer:salt water, and let the coral soak for 15 min. Then I would rinse in salt water and then add the coral to the tank. Worked well for me, people may be doing it differently now.
 

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I don't dose in a specific ratio. I simply mix to a milky consistancy. Like 2% milk. For about 10-15 minutes and then rinse with clean tank water. You can use a baster to blow on the coral while in the dip to help nasties to fall off the coral.
 

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I use a small tupperware and write a B on it with permanent marker > put a couple inches of tank water in the tupperware and fill 2 other with the same amount of water > add bayer to the one marked with the B and make it skim milk looking > add coral and after a few minutes squirt with baster to blow off dead or stunned pests > take out after 15 min and put in tupperware #2 > go discard the bayer water OUTSIDE in the yard > take baster and squirt the corals some more in the #2 tupperware > after 5 min move to tupperware #3 > inspect corals closely and after 5 min add to tank > dump remaining tupperwares outside > clean up
 

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