Should I carry on with copper treatment

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Hi so my fish are currently in a hospital tank for ich and I’ve been using cuprazin for the past 4 days they all seem a lot better and are eating and generally healthy- is it too soon to stop the treatment as I don’t want to stress the fish more than I should be? 2 tangs and 2 clownfish I’ve read tangs are very sensitive to copper this is the reason I ask, so basically my question is if I stopped dosing now would this have an effect on the results? Can’t seem the find the solution online anywhere so thought I would ask on here!
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My problem is that Cuprazin is a UK/European product that I haven't used. I presume it is organically chelated copper, but I'd hate to guess on that. Do you use a test kit to monitor the proper levels, or is it just dosed by volume?

Tangs are not particularly sensitive to copper products like Cupramine, Copper Power and Coppersafe. I generally keep the fish in copper for a minimum of two week, and usually I'll opt to run it for a full 30 days.

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Welcome to Reef2Reef!

My problem is that Cuprazin is a UK/European product that I haven't used. I presume it is organically chelated copper, but I'd hate to guess on that. Do you use a test kit to monitor the proper levels, or is it just dosed by volume?

Tangs are not particularly sensitive to copper products like Cupramine, Copper Power and Coppersafe. I generally keep the fish in copper for a minimum of two week, and usually I'll opt to run it for a full 30 days.

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Hi thanks 4 reply yeah it’s chelated copper & a mixture of malachite green/ formaldehyne & ok thanks I guess I’ll leave them alone then!
 
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Hi thanks 4 reply yeah it’s chelated copper & a mixture of malachite green/ formaldehyne & ok thanks I guess I’ll leave them alone then!
& yeah I test via sechem- But u can also dose by volume according to the bottle! Thanks again
 

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Malachite green is tricky - it can act as a cumulative poison. Years ago, I dosed it at a known safe level. I then performed partial water changes and re-dosed a proportional amount. Did that 3 times and then killed all of the fish - despite the fact that the concentration of malachite green in the water never exceeded the normal dose.

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Wow, I was thinking of switching to cupramine before but that has some sold. I will transfer fish to sterile tank and re start medication with cupramine as it seems to be far safer than cuprazin (from what I have read atleast) Once again thanks for the heads up.
 

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Wow, I was thinking of switching to cupramine before but that has some sold. I will transfer fish to sterile tank and re start medication with cupramine as it seems to be far safer than cuprazin (from what I have read atleast) Once again thanks for the heads up.
When you say move to a sterile tank, do you have a good way to manage the ammonia? I’d hate for you to go from the frying into the fire!
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Haha! Yes I have some established filter media I can use as my DT is still running and corals being fed! Appreciate it.
 

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