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hi , pics or short video of current fish,could help tremendously.
thanks so much for your reply! I will try this!I don’t know how to interpret the photomicrographs - I’m out at the marina for the weekend and all my histology texts are at home. I can almost see a clear envelope around each stained cell. If so, Amyloodinium/velvet doesn’t stain like that. There are also a lot of them. I wonder if you scraped and stained some mucus?
In any event the fish either seem to have velvet or late stage marine ich with secondary infection. The treatment for both would be a full dose of copper in a treatment tank. You might consider a 5 minute FW dip going in to buy some time as copper doesn’t wok right away. I also should add that once fish loss has begun due to parasitic disease it is very difficult to stop things before more fish die….
Jay
how long for a FW dip ?I don’t know how to interpret the photomicrographs - I’m out at the marina for the weekend and all my histology texts are at home. I can almost see a clear envelope around each stained cell. If so, Amyloodinium/velvet doesn’t stain like that. There are also a lot of them. I wonder if you scraped and stained some mucus?
In any event the fish either seem to have velvet or late stage marine ich with secondary infection. The treatment for both would be a full dose of copper in a treatment tank. You might consider a 5 minute FW dip going in to buy some time as copper doesn’t wok right away. I also should add that once fish loss has begun due to parasitic disease it is very difficult to stop things before more fish die….
Jay
ignore my last comment just re read your comment after running and grabbing my stuff for a FW dipI don’t know how to interpret the photomicrographs - I’m out at the marina for the weekend and all my histology texts are at home. I can almost see a clear envelope around each stained cell. If so, Amyloodinium/velvet doesn’t stain like that. There are also a lot of them. I wonder if you scraped and stained some mucus?
In any event the fish either seem to have velvet or late stage marine ich with secondary infection. The treatment for both would be a full dose of copper in a treatment tank. You might consider a 5 minute FW dip going in to buy some time as copper doesn’t wok right away. I also should add that once fish loss has begun due to parasitic disease it is very difficult to stop things before more fish die….
Jay
Done my FW dip and so much stuff came out of him, he is not very happy but already see a diffrance! less cloudiness and more energetic! Thank you !I don’t know how to interpret the photomicrographs - I’m out at the marina for the weekend and all my histology texts are at home. I can almost see a clear envelope around each stained cell. If so, Amyloodinium/velvet doesn’t stain like that. There are also a lot of them. I wonder if you scraped and stained some mucus?
In any event the fish either seem to have velvet or late stage marine ich with secondary infection. The treatment for both would be a full dose of copper in a treatment tank. You might consider a 5 minute FW dip going in to buy some time as copper doesn’t wok right away. I also should add that once fish loss has begun due to parasitic disease it is very difficult to stop things before more fish die….
Jay
Ok, this may buy you some time, but you need to get a full treatment started right away - coppersafe at full strength is my preference.Done my FW dip and so much stuff came out of him, he is not very happy but already see a diffrance! less cloudiness and more energetic! Thank you !
iv just said bugger it and thew it in my display tank, it's fish only ! Iv ordered a copper testing kit but it won't arrive till Monday.Ok, this may buy you some time, but you need to get a full treatment started right away - coppersafe at full strength is my preference.
Jay
Depends which copper product you are using. Coppersafe is 2.5 ppm for 30 days. Copper Power is 2.1 ppm for 30, but some people push it to 2.5 Cupramine is .5 for 14 days, but most people take it to 30. Ionic copper is 0.20 for 20 days.Can someone tell me what the copper level guidelines?
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sorry ,i am not sure if levels are the same with coppersafe and copper power.
i did see @kaylshouse15 you added to tank with rock and sand.
do think will do damage to your biological filtration ,and absorb the copper ?
experts ,correct me if i am wrong please.
I do not think its a good idea to add copper to a tank with rock/sandDepends which copper product you are using. Coppersafe is 2.5 ppm for 30 days. Copper Power is 2.1 ppm for 30, but some people push it to 2.5 Cupramine is .5 for 14 days, but most people take it to 30. Ionic copper is 0.20 for 20 days.
Jay