Sorry its a dino question

[Hellybell80]

Morning all,

I've had an issue with my sand for a few months now. On my weekly water changes I always siphoned the sand as I cleaned.
At the time my nitrates were 20-25ppm and phosphate around 0.07. Didn't think it was dino because I never really had low nutrients in my tank.
It got worse of late.
Got my nutrients down somewhat to 5-8 nitrates and 0.05 phosphate.
Can any one help with id?

Plus I have been treating it with mb7 and adding phytoplankton regularly. Allowed GHA to grow on rocks and the back of the glass. Made a small difference kept nutrients balanced. Didnt stir my sand bed for 2 months I havnt done a water change in over a month as well. But this morning I siphoned out a load of it. As it was thick in some places.
When looking under microscope it looks like it is. But there's thick mated stuff as well.

Sorry for the not great pics i have the shakes this morning.
Any help would be appreciated. Also what else can I do to try to beat it.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Dino starting to kick in.
First- Check phosphates and nitrates to assure theyre not elevated.
Here is full program:
Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles.
Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10-15%) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off.
During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as bacter 7) per 10 gallons.
Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX as it is food for dinos.
Day 5,, you can start with blue lights - ramping up and work your white lights up slowly

 

[Skynyrd Fish]

Crap.

 

[Hellybell80]

Dino starting to kick in.
First- Check phosphates and nitrates to assure theyre not elevated.
Here is full program:
Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles.
Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10-15%) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off.
During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as bacter 7) per 10 gallons.
Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX as it is food for dinos.
Day 5,, you can start with blue lights - ramping up and work your white lights up slowly

The nutrients is the opposite to what I've read on dinos. It should be elevated(obviously not too high) blackout don't work on what i think is amphidinium dino.
I have been dosing microbacter 7 for over two months now.
I use floss which gets changed daily.
If I syphon it out it comes back the next day.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I had amphi and gone- never came back

 

[vetteguy53081]

The nutrients is the opposite to what I've read on dinos. It should be elevated(obviously not too high) blackout don't work on what i think is amphidinium dino.
I have been dosing microbacter 7 for over two months now.
I use floss which gets changed daily.
If I syphon it out it comes back the next day.

With black and peroxide, you MUST go 5-7 days or it will not work. To dose bacteria only won’t do much