Starting a new Aquaforest tank

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  1. Aquanino

    Aquanino Member

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    Hi, I am in the process of upgrading my main display so I decided to pick up a RSM650 for a good price to start moving some stock across, and then decided to do an Aquaforest tank. I had to replace the glass as they were badly scratch so will have to wait for another 10days for the silicone to set.

    The tank will have RSM650 T5 lights (any advice here, are they any good?), Reef Octopus SRO3000INT skimmer, 3.0 vertex zeo reactor, I also have another vertex media reactor if I can’t fit all zeo, carbon and Phos in here. I am adding a UV ( I know not advisable with zeo but my first fish in here is a Gem Tang already waiting for me at the LFS) My old profilux 3, vertex Doser and some additional powerheads. I need to get a chiller as this tank is sitting in the guest room so can’t use fan based coolers which are so much cheaper and use like hardly any power but causes a lot of moisture in the room.

    I have read about 60% of the Aquaforest threads and want to confirm a few things as I see there has been some variation of methods over the year or so.

    The water will be about 400l from my main display and 200l with AF reef salt. I will move 2 pieces of live rock from my main display into the sump of the RSM. I have 1.2l life bio fil to start. I have also ordered 25L of 25mm Sera Siporax.

    How much zeo Stones should I start with, 0.65kg?
    Is it correct that I start with the recommended dosage of AF phos and AF Carbon from the get go.
    Should I use 6 drops of Bio S from the start and that there should be no NP pro until the 2 weeks is over.
    Since I am using the Life Bio Fil, how much of siporax will be actually required?
    I will have more questions once everything is up and running and will post pics of the progress. Below is a pic of tank as of now. The bracing will go in tomorrow. Thx 30EF6564-0E17-4029-8FA5-6B246CCFA0B2.jpeg
     
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  2. Anirban

    Anirban Valuable Member R2R Excellence Award Reef Squad Build Thread Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    Hey welcome to R2R and Aquaforest forum.

    Congrats on getting a bigger tank. Now, lets start with the transition. For the UV i will suggest either use it intermittently or not using it at all. I will quarantine the fish if possible. Probiotics system really dont like UV. AF zeo actually does not need to be shaken and hence you really dont need that vertex geo reactor like zeovit. You can put the zeo, carbon and GFO in that single reactor. You can use all those siporax but wash them well with RODI water before putting into your system. Siporax will take 3-4 months before it starts working and you see the effect. Thats its seeding time. You can put some life biofil with the siporax to seed it faster. I will go with half of the recommended volume for GFO and carbon to start with and then replace them twice a month for first couple of months. I will do the same with zeostones too. I just don't want you to strip the water completely.
    Regarding usage of Bio S you can go full dose for first 15 days with NP Pro and then shift to Pro bio S.

    Let us know if you need any more help and keep us updated.
     
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  3. Aquanino

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    Thanks for the speedy response @Anirban This would be the middle tank for now. Upgrading from my 1200L to 2x3000L but that will be a very long (and expensive) project. I will be transitioning most corals and some fish to this tank from the 1200l. This is a bit small for fish like my sohal and Achilles so those will have to stay back. On the quarantine I have my moorish idol in there for few months now, he one day woke up and decided that my acans and sps taste awesome. So I could quarantine my gem there and ditch the UV.

    I have used zeo before the pumping everyday was extremely annoying hence me wanting to try AF.

    Just to clarify, you are saying that for the first few months, let’s say 3 I will replace carbon and phos every 2 weeks. Zeo Stones would be half the recommended amount but change every 6 weeks or will this also be every 2 weeks.
     
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    Morrish idols are interesting fish but I hate their snacking habits.

    For the first 2 months use GFO and and carbon half dose but change in every two weeks as this will be a new system with some nutrient spikes. Zeo stones you can go for a month before you change and yes half the recommended volume for first two month.
     
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  5. Aquanino

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    I am now one week in with the cycle. I added some live rock from my current tank in the sump. Added phos, carbon and zeo as per above. I added the 25l of siporax and 1l life Bio Fil. Nothing is has really happened from a cycle perspective, all parameters seem in check. Expected a cycle like normal, threw in defrosted prawn yesterday and hoping to see something soon. I used completely dry fake rock in the main display so maybe that’s reason verses live rock.
     
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    EC2F089F-ECBF-42F9-95A2-6D971EAB39BB.jpeg On another note. Yesterday afternoon I added one scoop of AF Life Source, in the morning this is what my skimmer looked like. The skimmer was skimming dry as you can see the light brown in the neck, so am surprised to see this. In addition it smelled like rotten eggs (sulphur). I have read similar experiences with Miracle Mud so not sure if this is normal?
     
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    Today is day 17. On day 6 threw in a prawn to hopefully start the cycle since nothing happen for the first 6 days. 4F99D390-E4A2-4846-A343-0D36FF02031D.jpeg
    Above is a pic of the tank with on day 13. On day 14 I did a 10% water change with Probiotic Reef Salt and changed to 6 drops Pro Bio S and 6 drops NP Pro.
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    Above is a pic on day 17. Below are the tests:
    Ammonia - o.oo
    Phoshpate - 0.01
    Nitrite - 0.1
    Nitrate - 2ppm

    Any advice what to do next, I know the AF cycle should have been 14 days?
     
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    You can brush rocks, clean glass and slowly add some fish (1-2 max) and feed them.
    You can dose Pro Bio S and -NP Pro along with Bio S still.
     
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    I have the same tank. Running since Oct 2017. Following.....
     
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  10. Aquanino

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    Thank you for that advice, I was unaware that you could dose both Pro Bio S and Bio S at the same time. I have started to dose as recommended from yesterday. For interest sake and maybe a bit of knowledge what does dosing both together assist with? I am truly amazed at how quick the ammonia process was done under Aquaforest
     
  11. Aquanino

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    :D
    Awesome, are you also running Aquaforest. I got this one second hand to test to see if I will run Aquaforest on my new build. So eager to get some sps colonies in here , but will be patient :D
     
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    Sorry, I haven't kept up with this thread.

    Yes, I am using AF Reef salt. Got little dino issues, beside that all livestock are doing well. Mine is also, a second hand. Good Luck!
     
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  13. Aquanino

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    Pro bio S and Bio S worked brilliantly together, within a week the tank was looking all cleaned up.
     
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