Ok I seeI'm saying you'd stick the ups before you fish tank, that way it picks up the time period why the generator is warming up
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Ok I seeI'm saying you'd stick the ups before you fish tank, that way it picks up the time period why the generator is warming up
I'm saying you'd stick the ups before you fish tank, that way it picks up the time period why the generator is warming up
If you have a UPS between your wall outlet and your tank. When utility to your home goes out the UPS will kick in why the generator starts and the ATS switches over to generator power.I'm not sure what you mean by "warming up."
The total time without power for a whole home standby generator is measured in seconds. And that's just the logic built into the ATS to ensure that the power outage is actually an outage and not just a transient before deciding to turn on the generator.
I routinely remove power from most components in my tank -- during feeding, during maintenance, etc. I've properly sized my sump, my tank is drilled, and I'm running a beananimal overflow. I'm not worried about not having power for a few seconds.
The total time without power for a whole home standby generator is measured in seconds. And that's just the logic built into the ATS to ensure that the power outage is actually an outage and not just a transient before deciding to turn on the generator.
To add to this if you have aquarium controllers and all, improper fail safes could result In the tank sitting stagnant for a bit. The UPS will bridge the gap as if the power never went outUPS transfer time is 8-12 milliseconds vs. 10-30 seconds for a generator. That's why data centers have UPSes to bridge the gap.
A brownout is enough to shutdown my PC and in my last home they were annoyingly frequent.
Aquariums are more resilient and the only thing I'd worry about is the UV (which hates being power cycled).
$$$$ thoughIf you get an online double conversion UPS it doesn't need to switch. Power never blips at all.
UPS transfer time is 8-12 milliseconds vs. 10-30 seconds for a generator. That's why data centers have UPSes to bridge the gap.
Aquariums are more resilient
Only benefit I see is to prevent voltage fluctuations. With abrupt hard reset and while running on a generator. That being said most devices aren't that sensitive to those like electronics might be.Sure. UPS absolutely have a use case -- where equipment cannot handle downtime or hard shutdowns. But is that really needed for an aquarium? As you said (and as my point was -- since we're discussing outages and their impact on aquariums -- not datacenters, computers, or other stuff):
My house goes from grid power to generator power in 6 seconds (3 to make the decision to failover, 3 to start the generator and supply power), which is hardly enough to warrant adding a UPS. Unless you're worried that a controller isn't able to handle a hard shutdown and reboot cycle properly.
If someone is looking for tank backup from a battery source they'd be better off actually using batteries with DC pumps/wavemakers/controllers to avoid conversion losses that accompany UPS, since those eat away at the hold-up time.
Oh, and stagnation? Mine spends 10 minutes a day with no water movement. 6 seconds, even 30 seconds or a minute, is nothing to be concerned about. Which is why I was curious about the need for a UPS on top of a standby generator. It just doesn't make much sense to me in the context of aquariums. But to each, his own.
Only benefit I see is to prevent voltage fluctuations. With abrupt hard reset and while running on a generator. That being said most devices aren't that sensitive to those like electronics might be.
Could you just hook the tank system straight to a ups if you just need power for a couple hours? I've never bought one but I am in the pc gaming hobby as well and know they come in handy for that. Maybe I could use it for both my tank and pc, the power here never goes out for much longer than a couple hoursIf you have a UPS between your wall outlet and your tank. When utility to your home goes out the UPS will kick in why the generator starts and the ATS switches over to generator power.
You'd have to make sure it's properly sized, but in theory, yes. Maybe you have a UPS that only powers the powerheads off the default so you have water turnover, and than cycle your heaters on and off as they will draw a lot more power.Could you just hook the tank system straight to a ups if you just need power for a couple hours? I've never bought one but I am in the pc gaming hobby as well and know they come in handy for that. Maybe I could use it for both my tank and pc, the power here never goes out for much longer than a couple hours
Is that a mini generator or something? I live in fl as well and with all this rain I was just thinking today about the risk I am taking!. If something happen to my electricity I would be in massive trouble! My son uses a humidifier because he has a newly aquired trachea! I doubt that I could stay here in the house if its warm because of his health though but maybe my hubby or someone could! I have invested way to much money in 3 tanks and fixing to get a another and all I have is a few battery air bubbler!Doesn't take up that much space.
Yes that's likely a duel fuel generator currently configured for propane. (Likely a flow adapter to use natural gas) but either way that's a propane generator. I think some even run on gas as well. All 3!Is that a mini generator or something? I live in fl as well and with all this rain I was just thinking today about the risk I am taking!. If something happen to my electricity I would be in massive trouble! My son uses a humidifier because he has a newly aquired trachea! I doubt that I could stay here in the house if its warm because of his health though but maybe my hubby or someone could! I have invested way to much money in 3 tanks and fixing to get a another and all I have is a few battery air bubbler!