Struggling to keep Nitrates & Phosphates with a tank full of Tangs

[Merge_595]

Just beware that Tims ammonia (ammonium chloride I believe) will deplete alkalinity and is not intended for regular dosing so may not have the desired purity for ongoing use (don't know since there's no purity data provided on it that I have seen). I think food grade ammonium bicarbonate is a better best for most folks:

DIY Ammonia dosing for low nitrate systems

Some reef aquaria have chronic low nitrogen availability. One indicator is very low nitrate. Nitrate dosing is a fine remedy, but it is possible that ammonia dosing may be more beneficial for some organisms since ammonia can be energetically easier to assimilate than is nitrate. For this...

www.reef2reef.com

Thanks much appreciated I will be looking into the products on your post..no Tim's lol

 

[Merge_595]

Flakes and pellets

Pellets forsure haven't used them in year's need to grab some today Thanks..

 

[Merge_595]

Just beware that Tims ammonia (ammonium chloride I believe) will deplete alkalinity and is not intended for regular dosing so may not have the desired purity for ongoing use (don't know since there's no purity data provided on it that I have seen). I think food grade ammonium bicarbonate is a better best for most folks:

DIY Ammonia dosing for low nitrate systems

Some reef aquaria have chronic low nitrogen availability. One indicator is very low nitrate. Nitrate dosing is a fine remedy, but it is possible that ammonia dosing may be more beneficial for some organisms since ammonia can be energetically easier to assimilate than is nitrate. For this...

www.reef2reef.com

Question? Is Ammonium Bicarbonate the better choice? If so what brand any Amazon link???

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Question? Is Ammonium Bicarbonate the better choice? If so what brand any Amazon link???

Bakers ammonia. Food grade. Brand doesn't matter. Folks are getting good results (in the thread) and it doesn't deplete alk.

Some folks find the solution starts to smell of ammonia after a while due to CO2 leaving it, so keep it closed.

 

[Merge_595]

Bakers ammonia. Food grade. Brand doesn't matter. Folks are getting good results (in the thread) and it doesn't deplete alk.

Some folks find the solution starts to smell of ammonia after a while due to CO2 leaving it, so keep it closed.

After tons of dosing finally getting a reading. Just picked up the Ammonium Bicarbonate from Amazon..Will switch over starting next weekend. Also just watched the YouTube video with Sanjay & Paletta on the dosing but I'm still not 100% sure on the dosage/mixture..

 

[Reef By Steele]

I use neonitro and neophos in my macro cultures. Would recommend them. We carry them if you are interested. That size tank, PM me for pricing in larger portions.

 

[Merge_595]

I use neonitro and neophos in my macro cultures. Would recommend them. We carry them if you are interested. That size tank, PM me for pricing in larger portions.

I'm currently using neophos dumping 30-50 ml daily just to break even..

 

[klc]

After tons of dosing finally getting a reading. Just picked up the Ammonium Bicarbonate from Amazon..Will switch over starting next weekend. Also just watched the YouTube video with Sanjay & Paletta on the dosing but I'm still not 100% sure on the dosage/mixture..

I've been dosing ammonium bicarbonate for a few months now and it definitely increases the nitrate value. I mixed 20 grams to 1 liter of RODI and I add +/- 7ml a day to the sump of my 80 gallon system in the morning. I have never measured the ammonia level, and have not had any adverse effects with fish. It is not enough to maintain nitrate as high as I'd like it so I still add a pinch of sodium nitrate to the sump now and then.

For PO4 I use Loudwolf trisodium phosphate, 10mg to 1 liter of RODI, and I add 4-6 ml a day to maintain my PO4 at 0.05-0.1. Buying food grade products on Amazon is way cheaper than any of the premixed products by Brightwell or whatever, for $10 or so you'll have a year or more of a solution, the Loudwolf TSP may be a lifetime supply lol. 2 part is the same thing buy food grade and save a ton of money.

My 80g is a frag tank loaded with corals and 7 fish and it depletes NO3 and PO4 within a week or less if no dosing is done. I almost don't have to even test for nutrients as I can tell by the look of the corals (all sps) if the nutrient levels are adequate or not.

JamesPlantedTank on the web has an accurate dosing calculator that's handy for mixing/dosing, you can mix your solutions in different concentrations and it'll give you the correct dose if you want also. This was Randy's find, not mine.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

After tons of dosing finally getting a reading. Just picked up the Ammonium Bicarbonate from Amazon..Will switch over starting next weekend. Also just watched the YouTube video with Sanjay & Paletta on the dosing but I'm still not 100% sure on the dosage/mixture..

My link gives exact recipes.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

DIY Ammonia dosing for low nitrate systems

Some reef aquaria have chronic low nitrogen availability. One indicator is very low nitrate. Nitrate dosing is a fine remedy, but it is possible that ammonia dosing may be more beneficial for some organisms since ammonia can be energetically easier to assimilate than is nitrate. For this...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Reef By Steele]

I'm currently using neophos dumping 30-50 ml daily just to break even..

Wow. Sorry. Are you feeding the tangs anything like sheet seaweed?

 

[Merge_595]

My link gives exact recipes.

Got it jus went through everything man that was a brain buster! Lol Thanks!!!

 

[klc]

Oh yes the nori, it'll help out with PO4.

 

[Merge_595]

Wow. Sorry. Are you feeding the tangs anything like sheet seaweed?

Every single day faithfully lol

 

[Merge_595]

I've been dosing ammonium bicarbonate for a few months now and it definitely increases the nitrate value. I mixed 20 grams to 1 liter of RODI and I add +/- 7ml a day to the sump of my 80 gallon system in the morning. I have never measured the ammonia level, and have not had any adverse effects with fish. It is not enough to maintain nitrate as high as I'd like it so I still add a pinch of sodium nitrate to the sump now and then.

For PO4 I use Loudwolf trisodium phosphate, 10mg to 1 liter of RODI, and I add 4-6 ml a day to maintain my PO4 at 0.05-0.1. Buying food grade products on Amazon is way cheaper than any of the premixed products by Brightwell or whatever, for $10 or so you'll have a year or more of a solution, the Loudwolf TSP may be a lifetime supply lol. 2 part is the same thing buy food grade and save a ton of money.

My 80g is a frag tank loaded with corals and 7 fish and it depletes NO3 and PO4 within a week or less if no dosing is done. I almost don't have to even test for nutrients as I can tell by the look of the corals (all sps) if the nutrient levels are adequate or not.

JamesPlantedTank on the web has an accurate dosing calculator that's handy for mixing/dosing, you can mix your solutions in different concentrations and it'll give you the correct dose if you want also. This was Randy's find, not mine.

Much appreciated jus picked up some Ammonium Bicarbonate from Amazon..Will look into the Loudwolf for the P04

 

[Reef By Steele]

Every single day faithfully lol

That is exactly what I feed.

 

[Merge_595]

I haven't used Reef Roids in at least 6 years..but man if you need phosphates it's a definite source

 

[NaCl addict]

I have a Black Tank, Purple Tang, 2 Gem Tangs, Hippo Tang, Yellow Tang, White Tail Tang, Sailfin Tang, clowns, wrasse...feed 12 cubes a day + Algae sheets lol..& I put silverside in the sump to deteriorate..still nothing!

Sorry, I have the opposite problem with phosphates, I feed minimal and can't get them down, even with dosed chemicals.

 

[Merge_595]

Sorry, I have the opposite problem with phosphates, I feed minimal and can't get them down, even with dosed chemicals.

D-D RP-10 ROWAphos Phosphate Removal Media - 100 ml/3.3 oz https://a.co/d/cGYoe5U
In a reactor & Phos go bye bye..without a doubt so fast that you have to be careful you don't remove it too fast..

 

[MnFish1]

Your tank looks great - what are you exactly worried abuout? I mean - what are you trying to fix?