tiger barb looks raw any idea ?

[Liam j m 123]

 

[fishguy242]

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looks to be scrape from rocks/etc..
any other signs of disease or such?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Is the fish's tail damaged also, hard to see. Tiger barbs are pretty feisty. I see two dark phase ones off to the left. How many do you have in the tank? If you don't have a group of 5+ of similar size, they tend to fight, both amongst themselves and with other fish.

Jay

 

[Liam j m 123]

Thanks for the replies
There is no damage to fins and he has been under atack from the blue barbs lately hes currently living with 2 small blue barbs 2 medium gold barbs 1 angel fish 6 x-ray tetra silver and 1 orenge tetra along with 1 pink dwarf barb also + 1 plec i agree this must be from attack or the rocks wound looks better today

 

[Jay Hemdal]

That is infected, now the fish almost looks bloated to me. Antibiotics would be a possible treatment, but not without side effects, they may harm your biofilter. Maracyn 2 would be a safe one to try.
Jay

 

[Ksull72487]

That is infected, now the fish almost looks bloated to me. Antibiotics would be a possible treatment, but not without side effects, they may harm your biofilter. Maracyn 2 would be a safe one to try.
Jay

Agree with Jay! I don’t keep freshwater. But I took care of them. You could also go Melafix. That would be the natural way. But he definitely is bloated. So you may need the Antibiotic. Luckily your freshwater. So you can do a lot of treatment. It’s up to you to QT. But I think your safe to just dose the tank. Use a bubbler and raise the heat 1-2 degrees if you have one. Remove the carbon.

 

[saltcats]

The top fish in the photo looks like a gourami to me - look up gold gourami.

What size is the tank? For a bacterial infection I wouldn't raise the temp - helps the bacteria spread faster.

 

[Liam j m 123]

The top fish in the photo looks like a gourami to me - look up gold gourami.

What size is the tank? For a bacterial infection I wouldn't raise the temp - helps the bacteria spread faster.

The top fish in the photo looks like a gourami to me - look up gold gourami.

What size is the tank? For a bacterial infection I wouldn't raise the temp - helps the bacteria spread faster.

Thanks for the advise and yes the tiger is definitely blotting up.
You are correct the gold fish is a gourami thanks for the correction.
Also the blue barb (the atacker is nose down and not happy at the lowere of the tank .
I will try some tank dossing medication.
I hope this wont harm the other fish.
I don't have a nursing tank.
My tank is 180L

 

[saltcats]

Good luck - hope your fish get better!

BTW, I recommend checking out theplantedtank.net - a user on there called discusluv is really knowledgeable about freshwater fish diseases and the best treatments and she could probably tell you which drug would be the best choice for this infection. (I hope it's okay to suggest a different forum on here!)

 

[Liam j m 123]

Tiiger barb blew up like a balloon this morning and died . I am going to pic up the antibiotics as planed and treat the tank to prevent cross infection.

ps. (Mabey i should buy the fish some face masks to control the virus this will keep them safe. )

 

[Jay Hemdal]

When fish do that, it is either ascites or dropsy, neither is really treatable. Dropsy, the scales stick out like a pineapple and it is from kidney failure. In ascites, the scales lay flat, but the belly fills with fluid due to liver damage. Neither case is very contagious, so that's good....

Jay

 

[LadyMac]

What’s the water parameters? Did he pine cone? I’m so sorry you lost him. I want to advise that if you plan to treat with melafix please remove the gourami. The tea tree oil does such harm to their labyrinth organ and can be fatal. What size tank is this? Tiger barns are aggressive and I’d imagine so are the others with the similar body shape. If you don’t have enough of them to spread that aggression someone will be singled out and picked on. If the tank size permits you should get more of the same to even that out.

 

[homer1475]

When fish do that, it is either ascites or dropsy, neither is really treatable. Dropsy, the scales stick out like a pineapple and it is from kidney failure. In ascites, the scales lay flat, but the belly fills with fluid due to liver damage. Neither case is very contagious, so that's good....

Jay

I know this is a salt forum, but your a fish expert and I have a fish question.

I've kept FW bettas for years. After a few years they always blow up like a balloon and die, Everytime this is how they die. Could it be dropsy and what causes it?

EDIT:
Sorry to the OP for hijacking his thread.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Bettas are not a long-lived fish, and now days, the fancy ones seem even shorter lived. Same thing though - if they die with their scales sticking out on edge, it is dropsy and kidney disease. If they just swell up with fluid and the scales still lay flat, it is ascites, liver disease. In freshwater fish, the addition of epsom salts (I don't have the dose handy) to the water can help alleviate these symptoms. In some cases, the kidney disease is an infection and might be treatable with erythromycin, but I've not had much luck with that.

Jay

 

[homer1475]

Thanks for that @Jay Hemdal!

I know they are short lived fish(recently have only been getting 2 years If I'm lucky), just curious why they always blew up like a balloon to only die a few days later.

And yes the scales stick out like a pinecone sometimes, so I would say it's dropsy, although some could have been ascites as the scales layed flat.

I will have to try some epsom salt(is FW aquarium salt the same thing?). I haven't kept FW fish in 30 years with the excpetion of bettas(My wife favorite fish).

 

[LadyMac]

Thanks for that @Jay Hemdal!

I know they are short lived fish(recently have only been getting 2 years If I'm lucky), just curious why they always blew up like a balloon to only die a few days later.

And yes the scales stick out like a pinecone sometimes, so I would say it's dropsy, although some could have been ascites as the scales layed flat.

I will have to try some epsom salt(is FW aquarium salt the same thing?). I haven't kept FW fish in 30 years with the excpetion of bettas(My wife favorite fish).

I believe it’s the same but regular Epsom salt is cheaper. Where are you buying the bettas from? The ones in pet shops are usually mass produced and they don’t cull their stock, so even those with health issues are sold and/ or bred.

 

[homer1475]

All over.....

I have about 15 5G betta bowls stashed throughout my house. lol

If my wife sees a pretty betta, it usually comes home. And I never say no because after her 20$ betta, she doesn't complain about the couple hundred I just spent on coral/fish. lol

 

[LadyMac]

Try looking up the IBC (International Betta Congress) On Facebook and reaching out to a breeder. They are reputable breeders who also show their fish and will cull, guaranteeing the lines are healthy. Or just pick her out some pretty wilds to keep

 

[homer1475]

Unfortunately I don't do facebook, but thank you for the suggestion. I'll see what I can find on the interwebs.