Velvet or Ich and how to treat?

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A rally dip alone won't cure velvet (Amyloodinium). It is used to just get a jump start on the disease progression. You need to eliminate the dinospores from the tank itself, else the fish will continue to get reinfected when you return them to the tank. If you have fish and invertebrates mixed, there isn't a good solution other than moving the fish out, treating them there, and then letting your invertebrates live in a fishless tank (no disease host) for a period of time so the diseases die out. A FW dip, moving to a clean quarantine tank and then dosing with copper is the best course of action. If you truly have velvet, you need to act very quickly, as this disease kills rapidly. Velvet is fairly rare, and many people confuse it with late stage marine ich though.


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My question is what is the process to do a bath on rally, I know that doesn't solve the problem but it is part of the process to eradicate the problem.
 

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My question is what is the process to do a bath on rally, I know that doesn't solve the problem but it is part of the process to eradicate the problem.
Using Rally Pro as a bath is "off label" use. The instructions only give the 24 hour dose of 1 oz. per 10 gallons in saltwater.

Generally, medications can be used at 3x the normal 24 hour dose for a 1 hour bath, but that isn't universal.

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A rally dip alone won't cure velvet (Amyloodinium). It is used to just get a jump start on the disease progression. You need to eliminate the dinospores from the tank itself, else the fish will continue to get reinfected when you return them to the tank. If you have fish and invertebrates mixed, there isn't a good solution other than moving the fish out, treating them there, and then letting your invertebrates live in a fishless tank (no disease host) for a period of time so the diseases die out. A FW dip, moving to a clean quarantine tank and then dosing with copper is the best course of action. If you truly have velvet, you need to act very quickly, as this disease kills rapidly. Velvet is fairly rare, and many people confuse it with late stage marine ich though.


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Jay,

Thanks to all your helpful advice both of the fish seem healthy and happy, no more spots and they are both eating well.
 

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The OP's first post was Nov 3.
I thought Velvet would kill in just 2 or 3 days, if so, it wasnt velvet.
A velvet infected fish would not have lasted till late November.
Am I Right or wrong.
 

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The OP's first post was Nov 3.
I thought Velvet would kill in just 2 or 3 days, if so, it wasnt velvet.
A velvet infected fish would not have lasted till late November.
Am I Right or wrong.

This post went sideways with some other discussions. As best as I could determine based on the normal breathing, this was advanced ich, not velvet.

Jay
 

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