What does my foxface have? I think he has whitespot but not sure

Erick Armanii

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 31, 2017
Messages
809
Reaction score
713
Location
Danbury Ct
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Wow a lot of information to digest but important to understand. Did the clownfish that died have any similar symptoms? Does the skin look like it’s peeling or slouching off? Brooklynella tends to effect clownfish before effecting other fish and can also appear to look like ich or velvet.

check out this link to help identify what’s going on. Also remove the sand from your QT as it will absorb the medication. Over time it can leech back into the water giving inaccurate testing.


 
OP
OP
F

firsttimeowner

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 23, 2020
Messages
40
Reaction score
49
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Wow a lot of information to digest but important to understand. Did the clownfish that died have any similar symptoms? Does the skin look like it’s peeling or slouching off? Brooklynella tends to effect clownfish before effecting other fish and can also appear to look like ich or velvet.

check out this link to help identify what’s going on. Also remove the sand from your QT as it will absorb the medication. Over time it can leech back into the water giving inaccurate testing.


Hey, thank you for posting with some advice now its interesting you say that because the clowns did have a little bit of white on them but not like a huge breakout that you probably did see in my earlier pictures of my foxface, the good news is that we have no sand in our QT as we weren't entirely sure how to do it at first but thankfully all the amazing people here have advised!

My foxface is the one and only where it has the appearance of sort of slouching off but he wasnt trying to get it off or rubbing himself against any of the rocks either so thats what was extra confusing.
 

Zionas

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Mar 6, 2020
Messages
5,602
Reaction score
3,472
Location
Winnieland (AKA “People’s” Republic of China)
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Were your Clowns captive bred? What variety were they?


And how did you lose your Gold Rim Tang? Sounds like he was really personable. Love that. I can’t wait to have fish that recognize my presence and hand feeding them would be such a joy.

Believe it or not, I’m 100% an armchair general at this point. Maybe not even an armchair general, lol. I’ve been into the hobby since I was 7 or 8 (only turning 24 this year), and I plan to start my first tank (183 gallons custom made) in a month or two. Currently trapped abroad because of the coronavirus.

At the risk of annoying everyone on this forum whom I have constantly bugged about my stocking plans (thank you guys), I’ve done a lot of planning regarding my own stocking plans and playing around with big fish / smaller fish combos. I have ended up deciding that for aesthetic and bioload purposes I will have a mix of 2/3 smaller fish (5” and below) and 1/3 big fish for a grand total of 15 fish for my tank.


I want an:

Ocellaris pair (I have never been into the designer varieties, the normal orange with white stripes are the classic and the most beautiful to me).

Trio of Pajama Cardinals.

Like you, a Foxface is a must have for me. I love the Magnificent but One Spot or Foxface Lo will do.

Flame Hawkfish.

Marine Betta.

Yellow Tang.

Yellow Eye Kole Tang.

Flame Angel.

Royal Gramma.

Yellow Watchman Goby (unfortunately no shrimp because I am afraid my Flame Hawkfish and Marine Betta will eat it).

Some kind of wrasse (4-5”).

And finally for another large fish I am very keen on getting a Captive Bred Scribbled Angelfish. Unfortunately it’s not entirely reef safe but man, captive bred and a beautiful fish are two winning factors for me.

For my backup options when it comes to larger fish, I have the Black and White Heniochus Bannerfish, a single Lamarck’s Angel or a pair of Bellus / Watanabei / Spotbreast Angels one of which can replace the Scribbled if I cannot find it at a good size, but it’s so hard because I love all these beautiful fishies. :(

:) For corals I will start with softies and eventually upgrade some of my equipment for SPS and LPS, but softies only for the first year or so.


I would still suspect either the Tang or the Puffer brought the pathogens. :( Maybe one of them is stressed or stressing out the Foxface?
 

Erick Armanii

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 31, 2017
Messages
809
Reaction score
713
Location
Danbury Ct
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I read a reply from another reefer saying he had a 1/2” sand bed.

Anyways by running UV, it is probably slowing down the spread but I would be cautious as brook and velvet can wipe out an entire tank quickly.

is this a reef or fowlr tank?
 

Zionas

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Mar 6, 2020
Messages
5,602
Reaction score
3,472
Location
Winnieland (AKA “People’s” Republic of China)
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
To the OP, does your LFS maintain a separate system for each holding tank, or are they all connected? Do they maintain their captive bred fish (assuming your Clowns were captive bred) completely separate from wild caught?
 
OP
OP
F

firsttimeowner

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 23, 2020
Messages
40
Reaction score
49
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Were your Clowns captive bred? What variety were they?


And how did you lose your Gold Rim Tang? Sounds like he was really personable. Love that. I can’t wait to have fish that recognize my presence and hand feeding them would be such a joy.

Believe it or not, I’m 100% an armchair general at this point. Maybe not even an armchair general, lol. I’ve been into the hobby since I was 7 or 8 (only turning 24 this year), and I plan to start my first tank (183 gallons custom made) in a month or two. Currently trapped abroad because of the coronavirus.

At the risk of annoying everyone on this forum whom I have constantly bugged about my stocking plans (thank you guys), I’ve done a lot of planning regarding my own stocking plans and playing around with big fish / smaller fish combos. I have ended up deciding that for aesthetic and bioload purposes I will have a mix of 2/3 smaller fish (5” and below) and 1/3 big fish for a grand total of 15 fish for my tank.


I want an:

Ocellaris pair (I have never been into the designer varieties, the normal orange with white stripes are the classic and the most beautiful to me).

Trio of Pajama Cardinals.

Like you, a Foxface is a must have for me. I love the Magnificent but One Spot or Foxface Lo will do.

Flame Hawkfish.

Marine Betta.

Yellow Tang.

Yellow Eye Kole Tang.

Flame Angel.

Royal Gramma.

Yellow Watchman Goby (unfortunately no shrimp because I am afraid my Flame Hawkfish and Marine Betta will eat it).

Some kind of wrasse (4-5”).

And finally for another large fish I am very keen on getting a Captive Bred Scribbled Angelfish. Unfortunately it’s not entirely reef safe but man, captive bred and a beautiful fish are two winning factors for me.

For my backup options when it comes to larger fish, I have the Black and White Heniochus Bannerfish, a single Lamarck’s Angel or a pair of Bellus / Watanabei / Spotbreast Angels one of which can replace the Scribbled if I cannot find it at a good size, but it’s so hard because I love all these beautiful fishies. :(

:) For corals I will start with softies and eventually upgrade some of my equipment for SPS and LPS, but softies only for the first year or so.


I would still suspect either the Tang or the Puffer brought the pathogens. :( Maybe one of them is stressed or stressing out the Foxface?

So my pair of clowns were a black and white Ocellaris and I enjoyed them mainly because of how beautiful and vibrant they were in my tank, He was very personable and I actually didn't think that I could enjoy looking after fish as much as I did but he used to sit and observe and come out on a morning to see us which was unique and I hadn't expected it from a tang.

Well its a good place to start by doing all of your research first, its good that you have asked lots and lots of questions as i'm gathering people on here have so much experience and the majority of people have kept the different varities of fish so they have first hand experience.

Here is the interesting thing. I actaully had a coral beauty angelfish and he was beautiful only what I wasn't told is that he could be quite territorial and aggressive which that combined with the illness that my tang experienced finished the tang off, a few days later the angel also died unfortunately.

I have had Dragonettes but they have such a low stress threshold that I would not get them again and it spent most of its time hiding in the bottom corner of my tank, he would feed but nothing else really.

I got my puffer because they are super personable and when you get them their favourite food or they are happy to see you they will spray water at you, he has a specialist diet though so you have to be mindful and in the future with the fish that we have we will be getting a bigger tank as the foxface grows a lot bigger. I would recommend the foxface as they look awesome when they go camo in the rocks and when their spikes are up although i wouldn't want to touch the spikes lol.

I mean I would initially think it is the puffer if i am being honest the reason I say this is because the tang shows no sign of illness at all, i mean my puffer became a little unwell but then all but his eye he has made a recovery so that is a little mystery!
 
OP
OP
F

firsttimeowner

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 23, 2020
Messages
40
Reaction score
49
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I read a reply from another reefer saying he had a 1/2” sand bed.

Anyways by running UV, it is probably slowing down the spread but I would be cautious as brook and velvet can wipe out an entire tank quickly.

is this a reef or fowlr tank?
Thank you for your reply our tank is a reef tank at present and I have seen that its pretty nasty when it takes hold! What tank do you have? :)
 
OP
OP
F

firsttimeowner

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 23, 2020
Messages
40
Reaction score
49
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
To the OP, does your LFS maintain a separate system for each holding tank, or are they all connected? Do they maintain their captive bred fish (assuming your Clowns were captive bred) completely separate from wild caught?
As far as I am aware they are all captive although I can't be !00% sure on that and no all the fish are put together of course in seperate tanks but my clowns were in a tank with a tang and some other bits just as my puffer who i know was not captive was placed in a tank with other things and not seperately.
 
OP
OP
F

firsttimeowner

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 23, 2020
Messages
40
Reaction score
49
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Just wondering if anyone can answer the question for me, will it cause my foxface any harm or distress if we freshwater dip him or will he be ok?
 

nereefpat

7500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Apr 20, 2018
Messages
7,929
Reaction score
8,687
Location
Central Nebraska
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Just wondering if anyone can answer the question for me, will it cause my foxface any harm or distress if we freshwater dip him or will he be ok?

A dip would be a good idea.

There's a lot of text above, and I haven't read it all.. how is the fish today?

It needs to be in QT and getting treatment. If it's velvet, it needs copper or chloroquine, immediately. For brook, formalin dips supposedly work well. Maybe fw dips would help. Then into a new QT tank. Brook can kill fast too.
 

Erick Armanii

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 31, 2017
Messages
809
Reaction score
713
Location
Danbury Ct
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
A dip would be a good idea.

There's a lot of text above, and I haven't read it all.. how is the fish today?

It needs to be in QT and getting treatment. If it's velvet, it needs copper or chloroquine, immediately. For brook, formalin dips supposedly work well. Maybe fw dips would help. Then into a new QT tank. Brook can kill fast too.

basically everything he said.
Don’t want to alarm youbut you have to act fast for all three possible situations.

Freshwater dip for upto 15mins is fine, then get them into a hospital tank. Once you know for sure what it is, be ready to dose either copper for ick/velvet, or ruby reef/formalin for brook.

Brooklynella kills quick, people on Reef2reef talk about their experiences and within 2-3 days it can wipe out an entire tank.
 
OP
OP
F

firsttimeowner

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 23, 2020
Messages
40
Reaction score
49
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
A dip would be a good idea.

There's a lot of text above, and I haven't read it all.. how is the fish today?

It needs to be in QT and getting treatment. If it's velvet, it needs copper or chloroquine, immediately. For brook, formalin dips supposedly work well. Maybe fw dips would help. Then into a new QT tank. Brook can kill fast too.

Hey, yeah there is a lot of text lol but so grateful for all the help the community has given to me, currently hes chill, eating normally and going about his business as normal which makes it all the more strange and complex. I'm going to have to put him in the QT for sure but wanted to be certain with what I was going to be dosing him with im eager no to distress him more which is a major concern to me of course and i don't want to lose him. Have you ever encountered this problem before?
 
OP
OP
F

firsttimeowner

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 23, 2020
Messages
40
Reaction score
49
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
basically everything he said.
Don’t want to alarm youbut you have to act fast for all three possible situations.

Freshwater dip for upto 15mins is fine, then get them into a hospital tank. Once you know for sure what it is, be ready to dose either copper for ick/velvet, or ruby reef/formalin for brook.

Brooklynella kills quick, people on Reef2reef talk about their experiences and within 2-3 days it can wipe out an entire tank.
I think you are right and I would rather be aware of the facts that wander blindly hoping for the best, I find it super odd that it's only him affected....
 

Erick Armanii

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 31, 2017
Messages
809
Reaction score
713
Location
Danbury Ct
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Agreed! Also an interesting little fact for foxface’s, they can act like little chamaeleons when stressed. Sometimes even moved into a new tank they will grow these brown or blackish colored spots on their bodies to hide or blend within the rock work.

best of luck and keep us posted
 
OP
OP
F

firsttimeowner

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 23, 2020
Messages
40
Reaction score
49
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Agreed! Also an interesting little fact for foxface’s, they can act like little chamaeleons when stressed. Sometimes even moved into a new tank they will grow these brown or blackish colored spots on their bodies to hide or blend within the rock work.

best of luck and keep us posted

He's goes camo when he is settling down for the night always he has his own little place in the rock, I will definitely let you guys know how we get on with him!
 
Back
Top