I’ve had some interesting conversations at reefing events when I’ve mentioned I was in the Vertex Beta Test Group. Mostly a sense of arrogance from the Apex booth people to be honest. Had a similar experience with some guys from RE. I think Apex in particular have the market cornered but something just doesn’t ring true for me because if they are so certain Vertex will never produce a competitive product, why would they make the effort to crap on it and/or the company? And I expected to get some snide or sarcastic remarks. Under the circumstances it’s to be expected. Just like me busting the kids balls at the Apex booth at a swap in Indy about the Trident release date. Vertex definitely has a lot to prove. I’m hoping they defy the odds and if what I’ve been hearing comes to pass, they really will be revolutionizing the controller game.