What ever happened to the Vertex Cerebra?

Tobe71

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Hopefully the specifics include supporting Ecotech products, details about a dosing solution, and a *cough* FOURTH *cough* tentative release date.
Ha!
No doubt. I’m often referred to as an eternal optimist, but even my sunny disposition is about maxed...
I’d love for some Kessil support as well. The Xepta Abex and Alkatronic have been hinted at as integrating with Cerebra.. THAT would be AWESOME and eliminate my mild attraction to the Trident.
 
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Ha!
No doubt. I’m often referred to as an eternal optimist, but even my sunny disposition is about maxed...
I’d love for some Kessil support as well. The Xepta Abex and Alkatronic have been hinted at as integrating with Cerebra.. THAT would be AWESOME and eliminate my mild attraction to the Trident.
I would think it would have to integrate with alkatronic it integrates with anything that has a BNC pH probe port
 

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For what it is worth, when it was presented to us we were the drivers of selling it as a Beta. It probably wasn't apparent to people who were not paying close attention but almost all of our competitors marketed and sold it as a full retail product and no mention of beta.

The only way I would approve us offering it was as a heavily discounted beta product. Not because I didn't believe in what Vertex was trying to achieve but simply because I know controllers are complex, used in a million unique configurations and anything this complex was bound to have some issues. The out of the box almost "never fail" standard is difficult to meet. That said I think we would have all liked to see a more rapid evolution from beta to alpha to retail ready.

As to the suggestion above, we would never offer a "beta" product again because I don't think the expectations of what you are getting could ever be clear enough to meet our standards. It has also made us more cautious of offering newcomers to the market as well. In this case, I don't mind being last to market. The Trailblazers, who want to discover new territories and risk getting shot in the back will probably have to buy from our competitors first.

So the big question is if we will sell the Cerebra when it comes out. I am not even going to spend much mind share on that question or any of the other companies who have been telling me for years they will have a controller. When one is in my hands the team will review it to the best of our ability and decide if it is ready to be offered to customers who trust us to look out for their interests. So if we do offer it, it will be because we believe it to be of good value and ready for retail ready use. Meaning as good or better than similar products in the market.
Yet another reason I consider you guys one of the best around. I'm sure you have had your share of grief over this debacle as well.

One comment I would make, though: When they first announced V1 and released the promotional videos, there were a lot of questions about the product which they had explanations for but for which their explanations didn't make sense. (e.g. they said they used a resistive touch screen rather than a capacitive one because resistive screens handle water better, yet we all know capacitive touch screens handle water just fine.) These discrepancies were one of the first flags to me that something was up, but BRS seemed to just parrot these talking points in the 52 weeks of reefing video, rather than more critically evaluating them. That was one of the few times I've been disappointed in a BRS video. Unfortunately, the questions ended up being legitimate.
 

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Wow - I just skimmed through the last few weeks of posts and am overwhelmed by the negative sniping going on.

If you look at my history, you'll see I'm certainly not a Vertex cheerleader, but I also try to be fair in my criticisms. What I see here is just constant ******** and bickering. People have every right to be upset, feel betrayed and have lost all trust and faith in Vertex. To be honest, after watching how poorly they handled the Cerebra, I'll likely never buy any Vertex products. And yes, Vertex is 99% responsible for creating this monster.

Still, making 50 posts complaining about the exact same thing doesn't really contribute to the forum or the community.

@FirstContact - in all honesty, I have to question your motives; after badgering @Tobe71, you back out of selling for dubious reasons.

@Tobe71 - your story seems a bit suspect as well; even for someone who has faith in the company.

Regardless of how poorly Vertex has handled things, how honest or dishonest they've been, the current V1 owners have little choice but to wait. Either a new controller will come out or it won't. At this point, if you're sitting on a V1, the best course of action is to consider it a loss, get over it, and if/when V2 comes out consider it a happy surprise.
 

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