What kind of wood did you make your stand with?

AydenLincoln

Pufferfish lover!
View Badges
Joined
Mar 27, 2022
Messages
5,016
Reaction score
7,418
Location
Easton
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
I’m trying to decide what kind of wood is the most affordable and best to use for someone to make me a fish tank stand. For those of you who made your stand. What kind of wood did you use? Anything but plywood lol. I was thinking pine because it’s cheaper. I like walnut but that’s a bit pricier and wood is very expensive right now.
 
OP
OP
AydenLincoln

AydenLincoln

Pufferfish lover!
View Badges
Joined
Mar 27, 2022
Messages
5,016
Reaction score
7,418
Location
Easton
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Why not Plywood? You Should use a Marine Plywood, then laminate it. You can even use a walnut veneer to cover it.
That‘s a thing? I should look that up. I should’ve said cheap and not durable plywood which is what I think of when plywood is mentioned. I looked that up it’s moisture resistant.
 

TangerineSpeedo

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 8, 2022
Messages
2,164
Reaction score
2,974
Location
SoCal
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
That‘s a thing? I should look that up. I should’ve said cheap and not durable plywood which is what I think of when plywood is mentioned. I looked that up it’s moisture resistant.
Yes... They use it to build boats. So...probably good for your situation. Waterbox and Red Sea make their stands out of it.
I believe what you are thinking of is "Particle board" or "MDF" The stuff that IKEA style furniture is made of.
 

Heabel7

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 10, 2018
Messages
427
Reaction score
384
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Depends on the size stand you need what the cost really will be. The cheapest would be pine. However, if you use clear radita pine then your cost can easily be more than fancier species of wood. If you did do marine grade plywood, with veneer that would also be far more expensive for a premium look than just buying standard plywood with the proper species already pre applied. Build a stand like a quality piece of furniture with polyurethane applied properly and there will be no need for marine grade plywood. You’re not building something that is meant to be wet or submerged. Stands get hit with water, and can be exposed to increased moisture. Nothing that polyurethane won’t easily stop. Heck even a bare plywood stand wood hold up just fine but look like . If you want it to look like a fine piece of furniture it’s going to cost you. In addition, if not building it yourself the labor will cost you more to have it built than the wood of your choosing in nearly all cases. Side note, make sure the bottom of your wood stand is held off the floor by at lest 1/8” on all sides by something that will not absorb moisture. Water is the greatest problem when it spills in large quantities and collects on the floor. If your stand is not raised up and sits in standing water. You fine furniture stand will eventually suck in water on the grain end.

walnut would be sexy if done right!
 

Bruttall

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 19, 2023
Messages
539
Reaction score
773
Location
Council Bluffs
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
8 foot, 300g 1000lb empty glass cage. 2x4 stud for the support frame. This stand is over 20 years old. Just provide ample support for the Tank. It helps if you figure out how just much weight you need to support.
20230401_113644.jpg

Here with the wall in front. In the process of moving this tank 5 feet forward to create a fish-room behind it.

20230125_115756.jpg
 

jsker

Reefing is all about the adventure
View Badges
Joined
Apr 11, 2015
Messages
24,974
Reaction score
79,736
Location
Saint Louis
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Just my .02

Poplar is a very inexpensive hardwood to use. Poplar is hard enough to hold screw better than pine with a smooth grain. One can dye poplar almost any color and finish the wood with a nice water base urethane. Nice thing about the water base urethane, no fumes if you are brushing, dries very fast for addition coats.

Poplar is 1/4 of walnut.

You would also need quite a bit of tools, machinery, and clamps to make the cabinet with wood. Purchase tool would increase the cost of building the cabinet to the point that it would be less expensive to have a custom made cabinet made. Unless you know someone with the skills and machinery to help you.

Most use plywood for the reason that there is very little needed to build except an electric saw, straight edge, pocket hole jig, drill, and a couple other items.
 

Hjnlssmith

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Mar 6, 2023
Messages
28
Reaction score
11
Location
Katy
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I found a you-tube video for a simple design. Made the frame out of 2x4 pine and the top, sides and doors using 5/8 plywood. Then used 1x4 pine for the trim. Was very easy and I ended up happy. Tank is a 48 x 21 x 18 (75 gal).
 

Attachments

  • 20220415_191423.jpg
    20220415_191423.jpg
    182.4 KB · Views: 119
  • 20220416_125928.jpg
    20220416_125928.jpg
    131.5 KB · Views: 100
  • IMG-20220417-WA0016.jpeg
    IMG-20220417-WA0016.jpeg
    165.4 KB · Views: 114

Bruttall

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 19, 2023
Messages
539
Reaction score
773
Location
Council Bluffs
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I found a you-tube video for a simple design. Made the frame out of 2x4 pine and the top, sides and doors using 5/8 plywood. Then used 1x4 pine for the trim. Was very easy and I ended up happy. Tank is a 48 x 21 x 18 (75 gal).
Using a real similiar process on my 8foot. 2x4stud frame under, with a decorative exterior (wall in my case) trim. That looks really nice in your pictures.
 

mfinn

likes zoanthids
View Badges
Joined
Jul 22, 2006
Messages
11,709
Reaction score
8,364
Location
Olympia, WA.
Rating - 100%
5   0   0
Not sure what you have against plywood, but my oak veneer plywood stand has been around for 17 years and it looks as if it will easily go another 17 years.
It may not qualify as fine furniture grade, but it ain't ugly.
 

JCM

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 28, 2018
Messages
1,342
Reaction score
1,646
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Aluminum would be better. I would like to see a steel stand that is over a few years old with zero rust. Even if it's painted well it just takes one scratch and rust is gonna start.

My steel stand is about 3 years old with no rust so far. My LFS has steel stands that are close to 20 years old. They do have some rust spots, but nothing concerning. A little sand paper and paint and they look good again. I agree aluminum would be better, but the welding process is more difficult/expensive.

For wood, I'd use SPF timbers then just skin it with a veneered plywood of your choice.
 
Last edited:

malacoda

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 22, 2015
Messages
1,045
Reaction score
1,180
Location
Western North Carolina
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Wood moves ... even hardwood. It expands and contracts with the humidity changes of the seasons. The more humidity, the more it moves ... and the more prone it is to warp, bow or cup.

While a finish goes a long way toward minimizing this, it will not always prevent it. And there is a LOT of humidity in and around our stands.

Plywood is FAR more stable due to the varied grain direction of the sheets layered within it. It is also much stronger because of that same varied layering.

And, with any decent finish applied to it, it will hold up better than solid lumber.

On my last stand, I thought hardwood ... red oak ... with a good finish on it would be just a durable as plywood. So, while I made the cabinet out of oak-veneered plywood, I made the top with solid 3/4" red oak planks. Within a year the planks started to check (e.g. split starting at the ends). While still structurally stable, it was not an ideal situation.

So, when I upgraded to a 120g, and used the same stand, I replaced the top with oak-veneered plywood just like the rest of the stand. No problem since.

Also, because of it's strength, you can make a box-stand out of plywood with very minimal framing ... such as 1x3's or 1x2s ... which leaves a LOT more room in the cabinet for equipment. (You'd be surprised how much difference an extra 2 or 3 inches make when you're trying add a calcium reactor or more trace element containers, etc.

Done right, depending on tank size/load, you actually may not need any internal framing at all.

Can a cabinet be made out of solid lumber?

Sure.

But 9 times out of 10, plywood is the better choice. Far more pros than cons.

In a nutshell, think it through thoroughly before you make your decision.

Another option would be to make the box out of plywood, then add dimensional solid lumber to the outside to get the look you are going for.

That's what I ended up doing. All the strength, stability and interior space of plywood with the look of actual hardwood furniture. You can see the finished product in this old build thread — Malacoda's 65 Long (note: this is when I used solid oak for the top. It has since been switched out for oak-veneered plywood.)

My old 24g had no internal framing, just plywood.

IMG_3077.JPG
IMG_2663.JPG
 

DIYreefer

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 27, 2020
Messages
701
Reaction score
1,019
Location
Tx
Rating - 100%
10   0   0
Cabinet grade 3/4" plywood. I know that that is not the answer that you're looking for, but plywood is excellent for stands. In fact, I would rather use plywood due to the simple fact that unlike any kind of solid wood, be it hard or soft, plywood is stable. Meaning that there won't be any seasonal movement (ok, there could be some but would be FAR less than solid wood). There are a couple of other reasons that I can think of that would make me choose plywood as well, but they still ultimately fall under the stability umbrella.

I think that aquarium stands are one of the few scenarios where a good plywood is actually a better choice than solid wood. With the only exception being for very large tanks. At that point I would likely go with extruded aluminum or powder coated steel anyway.
 
OP
OP
AydenLincoln

AydenLincoln

Pufferfish lover!
View Badges
Joined
Mar 27, 2022
Messages
5,016
Reaction score
7,418
Location
Easton
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
I found a you-tube video for a simple design. Made the frame out of 2x4 pine and the top, sides and doors using 5/8 plywood. Then used 1x4 pine for the trim. Was very easy and I ended up happy. Tank is a 48 x 21 x 18 (75 gal).
Thank you!
 
OP
OP
AydenLincoln

AydenLincoln

Pufferfish lover!
View Badges
Joined
Mar 27, 2022
Messages
5,016
Reaction score
7,418
Location
Easton
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Wood moves ... even hardwood. It expands and contracts with the humidity changes of the seasons. The more humidity, the more it moves ... and the more prone it is to warp, bow or cup.

While a finish goes a long way toward minimizing this, it will not always prevent it. And there is a LOT of humidity in and around our stands.

Plywood is FAR more stable due to the varied grain direction of the sheets layered within it. It is also much stronger because of that same varied layering.

And, with any decent finish applied to it, it will hold up better than solid lumber.

On my last stand, I thought hardwood ... red oak ... with a good finish on it would be just a durable as plywood. So, while I made the cabinet out of oak-veneered plywood, I made the top with solid 3/4" red oak planks. Within a year the planks started to check (e.g. split starting at the ends). While still structurally stable, it was not an ideal situation.

So, when I upgraded to a 120g, and used the same stand, I replaced the top with oak-veneered plywood just like the rest of the stand. No problem since.

Also, because of it's strength, you can make a box-stand out of plywood with very minimal framing ... such as 1x3's or 1x2s ... which leaves a LOT more room in the cabinet for equipment. (You'd be surprised how much difference an extra 2 or 3 inches make when you're trying add a calcium reactor or more trace element containers, etc.

Done right, depending on tank size/load, you actually may not need any internal framing at all.

Can a cabinet be made out of solid lumber?

Sure.

But 9 times out of 10, plywood is the better choice. Far more pros than cons.

In a nutshell, think it through thoroughly before you make your decision.

Another option would be to make the box out of plywood, then add dimensional solid lumber to the outside to get the look you are going for.

That's what I ended up doing. All the strength, stability and interior space of plywood with the look of actual hardwood furniture. You can see the finished product in this old build thread — Malacoda's 65 Long (note: this is when I used solid oak for the top. It has since been switched out for oak-veneered plywood.)

My old 24g had no internal framing, just plywood.

IMG_3077.JPG
IMG_2663.JPG
This is very similar to the stand my nano is on!
 

Being sticky and staying connected: Have you used any reef-safe glue?

  • I have used reef safe glue.

    Votes: 145 88.4%
  • I haven’t used reef safe glue, but plan to in the future.

    Votes: 9 5.5%
  • I have no interest in using reef safe glue.

    Votes: 7 4.3%
  • Other.

    Votes: 3 1.8%
Back
Top