What's a good PAR to run in my fuge

ShakeyGizzard

Southern Dude
View Badges
Joined
Sep 18, 2023
Messages
2,374
Reaction score
3,456
Location
West Central Georgia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
My chato is not thriving, but has slow growth. If its light related I use a Finnex fuge blade on refugium. The 30 w light might be lacking with 250 PAR at the surface with both sides turned on. Have not used chato grow, my Nitrate is at 5 and Phosphate is at .20 , using I.O. reef crystals and dosing AFR , What's a good PAR for my fuge so I can rule out the light being the problem
 
OP
OP
ShakeyGizzard

ShakeyGizzard

Southern Dude
View Badges
Joined
Sep 18, 2023
Messages
2,374
Reaction score
3,456
Location
West Central Georgia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Iron, not PAR is likely your limiting element in this equation. Also, Photoperiod of 12 hours?
12 hr period opposite the tank lighting, don't have a way to test iron, Have had a bottle of aquaforest micro E for awhile but never used any. Any recommendations to raise iron levels
 

KrisReef

His Majesty & Dear Reef Leader for Life
View Badges
Joined
May 15, 2018
Messages
16,394
Reaction score
33,534
Location
Vatican & Las Vegas Penthouse Quarters
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
12 hr period opposite the tank lighting, don't have a way to test iron, Have had a bottle of aquaforest micro E for awhile but never used any. Any recommendations to raise iron levels
I don't recall what the MASTER's recommend, but I am thinking SeaChem has an iron supplement that is iron without anything else? You said your No3 and P are measurable... Otherwise, a plant fertilizer that has it could also work, just have to be careful adding too many things at once, (!).
 

dangles

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Sep 22, 2022
Messages
1,391
Reaction score
1,806
Location
Ohio
Rating - 100%
3   0   0
When I first started a fuge in the back of an AIO 2 years ago I struggled getting chaeto to thrive. What did it was cranking my light to the max for 24 hours (all day, every day) and starting ChaetoGrow. No issues since. YMMV.

My second tank (120g w/sump) I adopted the same method with Pom Pom Gracilaria and it has also done very well.
 

Randy Holmes-Farley

Reef Chemist
View Badges
Joined
Sep 5, 2014
Messages
75,003
Reaction score
73,866
Location
Massachusetts, United States
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
12 hr period opposite the tank lighting, don't have a way to test iron, Have had a bottle of aquaforest micro E for awhile but never used any. Any recommendations to raise iron levels

No need to test iron. Heres my diy:

One Fergon tablet (ferrous gluconate) contains 27 mg of iron. Dissolve that in about 27 mL RO/DI (my recommendation, but other concentrations are OK, just don't dilute too much), the concentration is about 27 mg/27 ml ~ 1 mg/mL.

I dose ~1 mL to my tank with a volume of about 300 gallons ) once or twice a week.
 
OP
OP
ShakeyGizzard

ShakeyGizzard

Southern Dude
View Badges
Joined
Sep 18, 2023
Messages
2,374
Reaction score
3,456
Location
West Central Georgia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
No need to test iron. Heres my diy:

One Fergon tablet (ferrous gluconate) contains 27 mg of iron. Dissolve that in about 27 mL RO/DI (my recommendation, but other concentrations are OK, just don't dilute too much), the concentration is about 27 mg/27 ml ~ 1 mg/mL.

I dose ~1 mL to my tank with a volume of about 300 gallons ) once or twice a week.
Ill give it a shot, don't have a 300 gallon, but can dilute based on your amounts you dose
 

Subsea

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 21, 2018
Messages
6,213
Reaction score
8,795
Location
Austin, Tx
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
My chato is not thriving, but has slow growth. If its light related I use a Finnex fuge blade on refugium. The 30 w light might be lacking with 250 PAR at the surface with both sides turned on. Have not used chato grow, my Nitrate is at 5 and Phosphate is at .20 , using I.O. reef crystals and dosing AFR , What's a good PAR for my fuge so I can rule out the light being the problem
With respect to algae refugiums, I have found lower PAR (around 100 at bottom) to be better than higher PAR.

As I understand ATS, intense PAR is advised.
 

Randy Holmes-Farley

Reef Chemist
View Badges
Joined
Sep 5, 2014
Messages
75,003
Reaction score
73,866
Location
Massachusetts, United States
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
With respect to algae refugiums, I have found lower PAR (around 100 at bottom) to be better than higher PAR.

As I understand ATS, intense PAR is advised.

What happened when part was too high?
 

Subsea

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 21, 2018
Messages
6,213
Reaction score
8,795
Location
Austin, Tx
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
With respect to algae refugiums, I have found lower PAR (around 100 at bottom) to be better than higher PAR.

As I understand ATS, intense PAR is advised.
What happened when part was too high?
@Randy Holmes-Farley
I have a more specific answer with respect to Bortacladia. When I grew it commercially as an ornamental macro algae, I noted that at 100 PAR, its color was fire engine red. When I increased PAR to 150, I noticed an accumulation of flock which was easily blown off the branches, but undesirable in a display tank. When PAR exceeded 200, the seaweed turned yellow/orange and disintegrated.

PS: Bortacladia is collected in the GOM/Caribbean between 30’ & 120’ and when I get it from the divers it is a rich burgundy color. Once when first acclimating to a growout system, I shocked it with too much light and it went sexual and disintegrated. One year later, I had emerging Bortacladia everywhere in 55G grow out tank.
 
Last edited:

Randy Holmes-Farley

Reef Chemist
View Badges
Joined
Sep 5, 2014
Messages
75,003
Reaction score
73,866
Location
Massachusetts, United States
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
@Randy Holmes-Farley
I have a more specific answer with respect to Bortacladia. When I grew it commercially as an ornamental macro algae, I noted that at 100 PAR, its color was fire engine red. When I increased PAR to 150, I noticed an accumulation of flock which was easily blown off the branches, but undesirable in a display tank. When PAR exceeded 200, the seaweed turned yellow/orange and disintegrated.

PS: Bortacladia is collected in the GOM/Caribbean between 30’ & 120’ and when I get it from the divers it is a rich burgundy color. Once when first acclimating to a growout system, I shocked it with too much light and it went sexual and disintegrated. One year later, I had emerging Bortacladia everywhere in 55G grow out tank.

Great info, thanks. :)
 

TOP 10 Trending Threads

IS THERE SOMETHING IN REEFING THAT IT SEEMS EVERYONE DOES/KNOWS THAT YOU SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND?

  • Yes! I can think of several things.

    Votes: 12 31.6%
  • Yes, I can think of a few things.

    Votes: 11 28.9%
  • Yes, I can think of at least one thing.

    Votes: 8 21.1%
  • Not yet.

    Votes: 7 18.4%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 0 0.0%
Back
Top