curious , could some people be allergic to paly's/zoo's ? I have touched them while moving their rock or frag plug with no issues.
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curious , could some people be allergic to paly's/zoo's ? I have touched them while moving their rock or frag plug with no issues.
I'm setting up a reef aquarium in an educational setting (i.e., high school). Thinking it would be prudent to avoid all Palythoa and Zoanthus species. Thoughts on this? Or pick and choose among the Zoanthus species that are known to be safe?
I'm setting up a reef aquarium in an educational setting (i.e., high school). Thinking it would be prudent to avoid all Palythoa and Zoanthus species. Thoughts on this? Or pick and choose among the Zoanthus species that are known to be safe?
Palytoxins aren't created by paly's or zoa's. They are created by a dinoflagellate that is eaten and concentrated by the corals. In order for a paly to have the toxin it needs to have been exposed to that dinoflagellate AND be of a type to concentrate it.curious , could some people be allergic to paly's/zoo's ? I have touched them while moving their rock or frag plug with no issues.
Thank you. Those facts explains alot for me. I wonder if these toxins would be released naturally without any phisical outside influence by us?Palytoxins aren't created by paly's or zoa's. They are created by a dinoflagellate that is eaten and concentrated by the corals. In order for a paly to have the toxin it needs to have been exposed to that dinoflagellate AND be of a type to concentrate it.
This means you can have 2 otherwise identical paly's, one that is toxic and one that is not.
I have no idea. The science on palytoxins has been advancing quite rapidly in the last 3 or 4 years and much of the previously accepted information has been proven wrong.Thank you. Those facts explains alot for me. I wonder if these toxins would be released naturally without any phisical outside influence by us?
Absolutely agree. I'll only be purchasing corals that are within reasonable safety consideration - definitely no Palys.@Ross Petersen
IMO, Extremely irresponsible to have any palys in a high school.
If word got out that ingesting only one polyp would probably kill you.... I could see a possibility of one student getting one polyp from the tank and sneaking into someone's lunch sandwich that they hate and want to see die.
Immaturity and peer pressure and social status are fueling unpopular bullied kids to do some very stupid things....acting out in ways like never before.
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No Palys for sure. I just need to discern if some Anthozoas are safe. Seems to be a grey area...@Ross Petersen
IMO, Extremely irresponsible to have any palys in a high school.
If word got out that ingesting only one polyp would probably kill you.... I could see a possibility of one student getting one polyp from the tank and sneaking into someone's lunch sandwich that they hate and want to see die.
Immaturity and peer pressure and social status are fueling unpopular bullied kids to do some very stupid things....acting out in ways like never before.
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It is possible to grow corals in you blood. Although it is very painful. I heard a story once were someone was in the ocean and she scraped her knee on a coral. A few hours later her knee was swollen and very painful. They figured out she was growing corals in her blood.HI everyone! I have join R2R for a while and this is my first post. Hearing about paly toxins for the first time after keeping a 35g reef tank for close to 6 years (inherited an abandoned tank from my nephew due to lack of interest) is a shock/surprise to me. My favorite coral has always been Zoanthids due to its wide range of colors, but I was never really succesfull in keeping a colony for more than 6 months except for one.
Currently my tanks (55g Aquaoen & 35g Red Sea conbine into one sump) are dominated with Hammers, followed by Frog Spawns that I had kept during this time. My other corals are 2 Shrooms, a few small mid size Leather Coral, and on colony of Paly/Zoanthids.
Usually my fingers felt swollen and tingly painful especially when my fingers sustain minor cuts caused by my live rock sharp protrusions.
Long story short, I have had at least 2 instances before that I felt not well for a few days after sticking my bare hands in the tank to reposition my corals. The worst case was 3 days of headaches, numb fingers, minor breathing difficulty as far as I can remember.
That one time was caused positively by me touching my leather coral.
My question is, are all corals toxic? Any thoughts on this topic? Anyone heard of bad health effects, or developing health issues such as heart problems or others associated with long term exposure to corals in general? I am really concerned. Any inputs anyone?
Is the below item really toxic? is it a Paly or Zoanthids?