Wrasse-cal's Waterbox 100.3 Build

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  1. revhtree

    revhtree Owner Administrator Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Photo of the Month Award Article Contributor Build Thread Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    Very nice build so far!
     
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    Wrasse-cal Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Thanks!

    A monti cap or two off that sharp edge was exactly what I was planning on placing there.
     
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    Can you take a pic of the sump? Sweet build!
     
  4. Wrasse-cal

    Wrasse-cal Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Thanks. The sump’s not set up yet. I’m still waiting on a bunch of equipment I have on order.
     
  5. Wrasse-cal

    Wrasse-cal Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    UPDATES:

    First (very stupid) setback: In attempting a fishless cycle, I accidentally overdosed ammonia--likely, if I were to guess, to around 66 PPM. I was wondering for the last three weeks why my ammonia readings were still all solidly over 2 PPM. I looked back at my notes, and see I dosed 5 ml (!) ammonia. I have no idea why I thought that was the proper amount.

    Given my rocks are in a 30 gallon trashcan, and the can was only about half full with rocks and water, I'd guess I dosed 5 ml ammonia to 20 gallons/75 L water.

    I added more saltwater to drop ammonia to below 2 PPM, then I added a new bottle of Dr. Tim's. I'm assuming no actual harm done, other than annoying delay?

    Parts/equipment for the tank are still trickling in. I'm still waiting on my algae reactor and secondary chamber for my CA reactor to ship. It will likely will be a couple of weeks left before those arrive.

    I'm also waiting on some plumbing from BRS that should get here tomorrow. Other than that, things are slowly coming together!
     
  6. Wrasse-cal

    Wrasse-cal Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Equipment coming in...

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    Lifereef SVS2-24 with Sicce Syncra Pro 1500

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    Geo CR618 Calcium Reactor with Carbon Doser. Per @geo, the secondary chamber (SMC415) is due to be shipped next week!

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    Custom Random Flow Generators from Vivid Creative Aquatics.

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    @Vivid Creative Aquatics did a spectacular job fabricating adapters so the 3/4 inch random flow generators would fit the Waterbox nonstandard locline. Thanks, @Waterbox Aquariums for the extra pieces of locline!
     
  7. Vivid Creative Aquatics

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    We had a great time creating that 22mm to 3/4in adapter for you - and it fit perfectly. Thanks for including us in your build.

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    Wrasse-cal Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    I'm attempting something slightly unconventional and will be using a dedicated pump on a simple manifold to feed my CA reactor and algae reactor. My intention is to put the manifold pump in the skimmer chamber (because it fits there) and have the output from the reactors also feed into the same chamber.

    After seeing @Caravanshaka 's build thread, I am now thinking about using the ATO reservoir as a refugium as he does. I'm however planning on using it as a place for pods and other critters to breed, grow safely.

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    Caravanshaka's sump

    I'm concerned though about what will happen to the water level in my return pump chamber if I plumb the refugium off of the pump in the skimmer chamber. Caravanshaka plumbed his off of his return pump. If I run the refugium off of the dedicated manifold, I'm going to get water from the skimmer chamber bypassing the baffles to the return as water will overflow from the old ATO chamber into both the skimmer and return chambers.

    I'm worried this will raise the level of water in my return chamber such that the water level in my return chamber won't vary anymore based on system volume. The upshot being that I worry that if I plumb the refugium this way, I won't be able to place my ATO sensor in the return pump chamber anymore.

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    Does that concern seem valid?
     
  9. Caravanshaka

    Caravanshaka Active Member Build Thread Contributor

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    I don't see any issue with what you are planning. the low-point of the water level when the return pump is on is still going to be in the return chamber. Think of the tall wall between the ATO and the return section as just another really tall baffle, allowing water into that chamber. As water evaporates, the return section is still going to be the section of the sump that drops in water level since the water in the skimmer section and ATO section are baffled to stay that same height regardless of water level.
     
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    Wrasse-cal Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Thanks. I appreciate the response.
     
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    LadyMac Well-Known Member Build Thread Contributor

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    I dream of a waterbox system. Following your build! What do you think of thebsetup this far? How’s the quality?
     
  12. Wrasse-cal

    Wrasse-cal Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Given that my tank is still dry, I'm reserving final opinions--but so far, I'm very happy with my choice. The tank is beautiful and the general finishing on the stand is really quite nice. The magnetic closures on the stand though could be a bit better designed if I had to identify one shortcoming.

    In the spirit of full disclosure, there have admittedly been some hiccups, but I'll chalk those problems up to Waterbox being a new company and still ironing out quality control kinks. That being said, @Waterbox Aquariums has been really amazingly responsive, easy to deal with and completely invested in fixing any problems as they have emerged. For example, I had some issues with my stand. The panel had a chip on one panel out of the box. Waterbox immediately sent a replacement part. I was missing a leveling foot. Waterbox sent a replacement the same day.

    I've also had more than my fair share of questions, both pre-order and post-order, and Waterbox answered all of them quickly. I think they are very interested in providing a quality product with quality support.
     
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    LadyMac Well-Known Member Build Thread Contributor

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    Sounds amazing! Definitely sounds like a company I would like to give my money to. I really enjoy the style and price point. Thank you so much for the honest opinion :)
     
  14. Caravanshaka

    Caravanshaka Active Member Build Thread Contributor

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    I've had a similar experience with them. A few issues, but very responsive. I've got a review on my thread as well.
     
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    Cycle update @ 1 week:
    • Ammonia: 1.2
    • Nitrite: 0.2
    • Nitrate: 2
    This is going slowly. Ammonia level has not yet changed since I started the cycle and added Dr. Tim's.
     
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    Cycle update @ 2 week:
    • Ammonia: 1.2
    • Nitrite: 0.2-0.5 (estimated to be ~0.3)
    • Nitrate: 2
    I'm a bit perplexed by this cycle. Does something seem amiss? I would have thought by now I would see at least some measurable drop in ammonia levels. Perhaps somewhat reassuringly, there was a small rise in nitrites from week 1, so I know something is going on.

    I also tested phosphate, just to see what was leaching from the Pukani, and got a result of .5 PPM.
     
  17. NY_Caveman

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    In my experience, that does not seem unusual. In fact I would bet you see an ammonia drop by week three.
     
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    Wrasse-cal Active Member R2R Supporter Build Thread Contributor

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    Cycle update @ 3 week:
    • Ammonia: 0
    • Nitrite: >1
    • Nitrate: ~30
    I dosed 10 drops of ammonia. @NY_Caveman, you were right!

    I contacted Dr. Tim's Aquatics last week to confirm that the slower than expected cycle was normal. They advised that because I had no substrate, the lower amount of surface area present was causing the cycle to be slower. Interestingly though, in addition to my pukani rock, I also have a gallon of marinepure media in the cycling container--so I'm a bit skeptical that the lower amount of surface area was the cause. On the other hand, I decided to add a bag of live sand (contained in a mesh bag). The next day my cycle seems to have jump-started. Maybe this is a coincidence.
     
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    NY_Caveman Cave Dweller R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor

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    LOL. Nice. Just glad your cycle is progressing.

    Not sure I agree either with their substrate / surface area claim. I note have never used Dr. Tim’s.
     
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    Zotch Member Partner Member 2018

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    Hey Wrasse..

    Would you happen to know the inside dimensions on the sump side of the waterbox 100 cabinet?

    Thanks
     
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