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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jda" data-source="post: 9634757" data-attributes="member: 30252">If you don't have a way to take the nitrates out by super heavy skimming, fuge, or whatever, then some sand and real live rock will help you more than you know.  I don't know why you chose to be bare bottom, but unless it is for aesthetics, there are easier ways to run tanks.The issue with fuges is that they are kinda self fulfilling... the slow down as nitrates and phosphates get higher right when a tank needs them the most.  They are best used in combo with other export methods.  Chaeto does seem to have the maximum export and use up more N and P than other kinds, but I have only tried a few dozen.IMO, the only way to be really successful with heavy organic carbon dosing is an acute method like Zeo, but those tanks are usually super mature, dialed in and are using the method to fine tune and not to do macro adjustments.  More times than not, heavy carbon dosing is not going to work... you are trying to be the exception and not the rule, IMO.I am not saying that what you are doing is not possible, but it puts most of the onus on you and allows for not many ways for the tank to reach equilibrium.</blockquote>