Anyone want a Reef Octopus Diablo XS160 lol have a brand new sicce psk 600 for it, never used
It’s the space saver version with a small footprint, good up to 160g tanks
It’s the space saver version with a small footprint, good up to 160g tanks
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It is a wholly different environment and substrate. The algae in your tank is submerged, and often near a phosphate source (the rock) Your scrubber exposes the growing surface to air, it is not fully submerged.Yes, but why? Why does turf/slime algae typically grow in the scrubber and not in the DT, other than having the benefit of more intense lightning? When I wasn't using my "algae reducer", there was no benefit of more intense lighting anywhere so why not have turf/slime algae in the DT?
Yea the result is the scrubber grows it’s own algae, from scratch. If you seeded it with hair algae or chaeto or something else, the scrubber would still grow its own unique algae inside it, and it would starve out whatever you seeded with. Unless you seeded with turf algae from another scrubber, but for some reason even that doesn’t always work. The process has to happen naturally
Bleaching rock does not get rid of Phosphates. It actually makes it worse when you kill a million years of life that was on it. These were ocean rock.I've read @VintageReefer mention this several times.
What does that mean and how do you know if the rocks are phosphate locked?
My tank was 13 years old and the rock came from the ocean. I fought dinos for 2 years. My tank sprung a leak so I bleached it for 10 days, did 3 days 1:1 vinegar and then a few hours of citric acid. I detected Nitrates immediately afterwards so some bacteria made that it through that nuclear assault. I attempt to give the bristletooth nori but he doesn't know what to do with it. I feed big chunks of Rods reef and he eats the nori in it so I'm hoping that he comes around. He still picks at the rock. I assume that's habit. There's a foxface in there too that supposedly is a grazer. He picks at rock as well. It could be the Pellets that I feed them.You are giving the bristletooth an algae of some type though I assume, until the tank greens up a little? They are fabulous little in tank algae scrapers.
That’s really bright for a bare rock tank, lol. Is it old washed liverock? From a previous tank?
Worked pretty well for me. I had already started back up my Turbo's ATS a few weeks prior to getting the WSR ACS.
Brand new started up with some algae rubbed on it that was pulled from the Turbo's
Slow indeed. I'm on week 7. I did 100% water changes while it was in the Brute for a month every 3 days. It started at 2.0 and now is 1.5. It's going to take growing algae to pull it out. I'm done doing 100% water changes and skimmers don't work for Phosphates.Ok I can agree to that
Adding to the conversation, I would say this is a slow leaching process rather than a fast one, and low p has increased algae growth. So as p comes out of the rock, slowly, it is exposed to light, it has a rough surface, and then hair algae grows. It is then killed off, more leaches out, the process repeats in a loop until there no longer is phosphate stored in the rock. This can take weeks to months or up to a year depending on how bad the rock is and how aggressive one is removing phosphates
Slow indeed. I'm on week 7. I did 100% water changes while it was in the Brute for a month every 3 days. It started at 2.0 and now is 1.5. It's going to take growing algae to pull it out. I'm done doing 100% water changes and skimmers don't work for Phosphates.
In my experience bubbles = dinos. I have a decent microscope as well and looked at a lot of strains with bubbles on them. Turn that algae scrubber off. Your nutrients are too low.I see maybe bubbles? I would guess dinos and cyano if so. A microscope would help.
Mine arrived broken. Santa Monica told me that I am probably not going to need a skimmer so I sent it back and didn't ask for a replacement. I'll test his theory for a few months. It takes longer to rinse a skimmer cup than it does to pull out a hand full of algae.I have the RO 150EXT and it is by far the easiest to dial in and stable skimmer I have ever laid my hands on.
I do want to speed it up. Thanks for the tip. I'll look into this.Lanthanum Chloride does if you want to speed things up.
That was me replying to someone else. My nutrients levels are fine. However, I have had dino outbreaks which I've driven on purpose. I've never taken my scrubber offline.In my experience bubbles = dinos. I have a decent microscope as well and looked at a lot of strains with bubbles on them. Turn that algae scrubber off. Your nutrients are too low.
Sorry I quoted the wrong post. He will figure it out.That was me replying to someone else. My nutrients levels are fine. However, I have had dino outbreaks which I've driven on purpose. I've never taken my scrubber offline.
Bro that method is INSANE! I think I'll let it occur naturally. The fish don't seem to mind the high phosphate. I have a 40g in my office that I threw a live rock in and I'll use as a grow out tank for when I can finally add them to my main. I appreciate the suggestion for sure. I'll write this down in case 6 months from now I am still having issues. 1.5ppm isn't as high as I've seen and I see people with beautiful mixed reefs running at 1.0ppm.Lanthanum Chloride does if you want to speed things up.
You ditching the skimmer for another scrubber? LOLAnyone want a Reef Octopus Diablo XS160 lol have a brand new sicce psk 600 for it, never used
It’s the space saver version with a small footprint, good up to 160g tanks
You ditching the skimmer for another scrubber? LOL
I'm still going to hang on to mine. I can run both and will until I can harvest weekly. I can't run a filter sock though.
Thanks. However, my DIY "algae remover" does not use any air source and the screen is indeed fully submerged, albeit only 1/4 - 1/2" below the surface of the water.It is a wholly different environment and substrate. The algae in your tank is submerged, and often near a phosphate source (the rock) Your scrubber exposes the growing surface to air, it is not fully submerged.
Thanks. However, my DIY "algae remover" does not use any air source and the screen is indeed fully submerged, albeit only 1/4 - 1/2" below the surface of the water.
Thanks, but my tank is nowhere close to looking as great as some others on here
Maybe you can help me identify the (algae) growth growing on top of my coraline.. BTW. Your tank looks great!
No offense, but I've always had an issue with that. Personally, I don't own a microscope and I don't know how many people actually do, and even if I did, I wouldn't know what I'd be looking for in the first place. Perhaps it's easier to figure out once you use one though?A microscope would help.