HELP!

ffpaulen

New Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 23, 2023
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Location
Queen Creek
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I need ideas!

This is going to be long. But if you know your stuff PLEASE read on.

I have had my reef tank for about a year. I am kind of a perfectionist and have a background in chemistry. So I FEEL I have taken pretty meticulous care of my tank. The fish and coral seemed happy and growing. The tank was requiring less and less time to maintain. Water parameters pretty stable. Then, added a powder blue tang and BANG, velvet! Lost about 2/3 of the fish (Tang went first). Treated with PolypLab Medic (recommended by my saltwater store). The 1/3 recovered and I knew that there was velvet in the tank. Hoped for the best. Kept adding fish and again, good times. Then added a brown Tang. (Heard they were more resistant to velvet). Once again…BANG! Lost 2/3 again.


I was about to throw in the towel out of extreme frustration. Instead, bought all of the stuff for a QT tank. Moved the fish to the QT tank (had to destroy the aquascape to do it). Display tank fallow for like 80 days. Treated the fish with copper. Plus bought more since QT was going to happen with everyone anyways. Two saltwater tanks was freaking exhausting!!

So…I put the fish back in about 3 weeks ago. Many of the fish seem unhappy and not acting normal. My snails, all species, are upside down every morning and don’t travel around much. I have also had a Cyno and green hair algae bloom. I have had to treat for phosphates and while elevated, not wildly so. All my parameters test pretty stable the entire time otherwise.

Since things haven’t been improving, I have done two 40 gallon water changes in the past week. System is 210 gallons. Then some bad luck. My auto feeder went crazy and dumped about a weeks worth of food into the tank in a day. Vacuumed. New feeder. GRRR! But in the last 3 days nothings improving. I treated with Chemiclean today.

Some tank details:

210 gallon system

About 20 small fish (Some happy and some don’t seem to be)

Two anemones. Second added during fallow period. Clowns love them. One retreated into the shadows yesterday

Sand sifting star. Alive but doesn’t do much. Stays pretty stationary. I know if he dies he can poison the tank

Multiple corals. But even they don’t seem too thrilled

Clean up crew is probably on the low end but the ones I have don’t do much anyways. I don’t want to buy more snails just to have them die or lie on their backs

Thanks if you have read my tale of woe. Any ideas GREATLY appreciated!
 

vetteguy53081

Well known Member and monster tank lover
View Badges
Joined
Aug 11, 2013
Messages
92,047
Reaction score
203,343
Location
Wisconsin -
Rating - 100%
14   0   0
I need ideas!

This is going to be long. But if you know your stuff PLEASE read on.

I have had my reef tank for about a year. I am kind of a perfectionist and have a background in chemistry. So I FEEL I have taken pretty meticulous care of my tank. The fish and coral seemed happy and growing. The tank was requiring less and less time to maintain. Water parameters pretty stable. Then, added a powder blue tang and BANG, velvet! Lost about 2/3 of the fish (Tang went first). Treated with PolypLab Medic (recommended by my saltwater store). The 1/3 recovered and I knew that there was velvet in the tank. Hoped for the best. Kept adding fish and again, good times. Then added a brown Tang. (Heard they were more resistant to velvet). Once again…BANG! Lost 2/3 again.


I was about to throw in the towel out of extreme frustration. Instead, bought all of the stuff for a QT tank. Moved the fish to the QT tank (had to destroy the aquascape to do it). Display tank fallow for like 80 days. Treated the fish with copper. Plus bought more since QT was going to happen with everyone anyways. Two saltwater tanks was freaking exhausting!!

So…I put the fish back in about 3 weeks ago. Many of the fish seem unhappy and not acting normal. My snails, all species, are upside down every morning and don’t travel around much. I have also had a Cyno and green hair algae bloom. I have had to treat for phosphates and while elevated, not wildly so. All my parameters test pretty stable the entire time otherwise.

Since things haven’t been improving, I have done two 40 gallon water changes in the past week. System is 210 gallons. Then some bad luck. My auto feeder went crazy and dumped about a weeks worth of food into the tank in a day. Vacuumed. New feeder. GRRR! But in the last 3 days nothings improving. I treated with Chemiclean today.

Some tank details:

210 gallon system

About 20 small fish (Some happy and some don’t seem to be)

Two anemones. Second added during fallow period. Clowns love them. One retreated into the shadows yesterday

Sand sifting star. Alive but doesn’t do much. Stays pretty stationary. I know if he dies he can poison the tank

Multiple corals. But even they don’t seem too thrilled

Clean up crew is probably on the low end but the ones I have don’t do much anyways. I don’t want to buy more snails just to have them die or lie on their backs

Thanks if you have read my tale of woe. Any ideas GREATLY appreciated!
So sorry to hear
You are correct, they’re susceptible to ich, velvet and skin irritation. Having many tangs, I start with any additions- a week of ruby rally pro as a safeguard
Quarantine highly recommended.
With your Dino and water quality issues, Dino often releases low level toxins and absorb nitrates
I would suggest daily 4 gallon water changes, emptying skimmer cup daily, both for 10-14 days ( not as time consuming as it sounds)
Add a. Pouch of chemipure blue and turn off whites for at least a week
If adding aminos or NoPox- stop as it will feed dinos
 

MnFish1

10K Club member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 28, 2016
Messages
22,848
Reaction score
21,982
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Would you be able to just send today's parameters? And a video of the fish you're concerned about - and under white light? There are a lot of things to unpack - I didn't get the question? - Except the way I understand - some of the fish in your tank were not treated after the deaths?
 
OP
OP
ffpaulen

ffpaulen

New Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 23, 2023
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Location
Queen Creek
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thank you so much for your reply.

I am adding aminos. Makes sense to stop for a bit. Will shutting off the lights for a week mess with the coral? Since they like stability? I know the fish will be fine but I thought the coral would be mad. Lol!

I do empty the skimmer cup every day and daily small water changes is no problem.

Oh, and GO PACKERS!!
 

Jay Hemdal

10K Club member
View Badges
Joined
Jul 31, 2020
Messages
25,975
Reaction score
25,737
Location
Dundee, MI
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thank you so much for your reply.

I am adding aminos. Makes sense to stop for a bit. Will shutting off the lights for a week mess with the coral? Since they like stability? I know the fish will be fine but I thought the coral would be mad. Lol!

I do empty the skimmer cup every day and daily small water changes is no problem.

Oh, and GO PACKERS!!

If you post pictures and clear videos under white lights, we might be able to tell you more.
This is probably a case where there are multiple issues in play....
 

Keeping it clean: Have you used a filter roller?

  • I currently use a filter roller.

    Votes: 76 35.3%
  • I don’t currently use a filter roller, but I have in the past.

    Votes: 7 3.3%
  • I have never used a filter roller, but I plan to in the future.

    Votes: 58 27.0%
  • I have never used a filter roller and have no plans to in the future.

    Votes: 66 30.7%
  • Other.

    Votes: 8 3.7%
Back
Top