Maybe potassium and strontium (hopefully)
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Maybe potassium and strontium (hopefully)
Wording above is interesting, for KHD you don't need SA dosers, you can have slave + ProfiLux, or a standalone doser (if you use this combo, you lose the ability to historically track your measurements).
I'd think if you had a ProfiLux, you wouldn't need a SA doser, but that is an assumption and definitely conflicts with what the OP said.
Wording above is interesting, for KHD you don't need SA dosers, you can have slave + ProfiLux, or a standalone doser (if you use this combo, you lose the ability to historically track your measurements).
So only $2500...So I’m going to need x2 Stand-alone dosers, Kh director, ION director and the Profilux controller to measure those 3 elements. [emoji848][emoji3166]
So only
So only $2500...
Which competitor currently has a functioning device that measures all of these accurately? The way things are going these guys might be the first. There is no device that I am aware of existing or in the plans that can be used to control these parameters.Yeah this was my point in the other thread. Sounds like it’s going to be a lot more devices and a whole lot more $$$ to do basically the same thing as their ‘competitor’, if you want to call it that.
Well technically speaking none do. Its not like GHL has a working product ready to sell either so I would say anouncing the release is where both companies are right now which seems pretty even to me. I am willing to bet they have both been working on the product for an equal amount of time. Neptune just jumped the gun with its announcement which was an obvious mistake.Which competitor currently has a functioning device that measures all of these accurately? The way things are going these guys might be the first. There is no device that I am aware of existing or in the plans that can be used to control these parameters.
GHL has a proven record with their units. That being said I own a Neptune Apex.
the Abex unit looks like it’s similar to the ion director. Lots of interesting stuff coming out these days!Which competitor currently has a functioning device that measures all of these accurately? The way things are going these guys might be the first. There is no device that I am aware of existing or in the plans that can be used to control these parameters.
GHL has a proven record with their units. That being said I own a Neptune Apex.
So only
So only $2500...
Well technically speaking none do. Its not like GHL has a working product ready to sell either so I would say anouncing the release is where both companies are right now which seems pretty even to me. I am willing to bet they have both been working on the product for an equal amount of time. Neptune just jumped the gun with its announcement which was an obvious mistake.
Let's not forget about Reeffbot. It is also not available yet but it will measure any element that uses liquid reagent. I don't know how many elements can track at one time (it has 8 vials, so depending on the number of reagents per element it can probably monitor arround 4 of them) but at 1000 $ it will be a "cheap" way to monitor your tank. The good part is that it can monitor alk, calcium, magnezium, nitrate and phosphate. The bad part (or not) is that it can not control anything. That being said, GHL is one of the most reliable companies in the reefing comunity and everybody knows that their products are top quality and never fail. We don't know how the reefbot will behave as the company is new.
Not quite.
If we want to know the price for measurement (and not to forget: with controlling option!) of KH + Ca + Mg we can do this calculation:
Let's assume - for discussion purposes only - prices not final yet! - that the single unit costs $450, the slave set $800 and the standalone set $850 (like KHD)
Scenario 1: "Brain" is Standalone Doser of the KHD set
KHD Set SA (KHD + Standalone Doser 4 pumps) $850 + Ion Director Set Slave (with Doser 4 pumps) $800 = $1650
This gives you also 3 extra pumps for dosing / controlling.
Scenario 2: "Brain" is an existing ProfiLux 4 (or another Standalone Doser or ProfiLux 3, it doesn't matter, just any master GHL device with PAB)
Then you would only need slave dosers, KHD Set Slave $800 + IOD Set Slave $800 = $1600
There you also will have 3 free pumps for dosing / controlling.
Of course you can have it cheaper and purchase single items with the lowest amount of pumps necessary, then you would save a few bucks but loose the extra pumps for dosing/controlling.
You can construct also much higher prices. E.g. assuming someone buys a P4 + KHD + IOD + Dosers (in case he has no other equipment at the beginning).
But where is the point for that calculation? In this construction you would forget that the ProfiLux system could do a bit more than just KH, Ca, Mg measurement resp. controlling and dosing.
I think this is not a "who is the cheapest?"-contest.
In my opionion the questions are: Does it work at all in the long term, is it reliable and can I use it for controlling or only measuring?
I can answer this only for GHL: Yes.