Jackson's Old School 200 IM Nuvo Ext

[Reefering1]

Things were going too smooth! Needed some drama this month and boy I got some! I discovered that I had white bugs on many acros. They're not apparent like red bugs. Easy to miss. They're more active in the dark, and if you see them in the daylight they're easily mistaken for detritus or some other particulate. If you have pale tenuis through your reef when everything else is colored up, that's a surefire sign. I've become aware that most hobbyists, even seasoned SPS keepers are oblivious to white bugs. A dip in bayer (slightly milky) for 15 mins seems to kill them. But that won't work on an infested tank.

So I did 2 doses of Sentinel. I dosed 3 chews which is 69mg of Milbemycin and 1.38G of Luefenuron. Worked great on the bugs. No signs of them. Saw increased polyp extension after treatments. Unfortunately that wasn't it. I started to get dinos forming on the rocks and even on some of the SPS (strings with bubbles) after second dose. I saw a small decline in color and polyp extension. Even my fish were acting differently hiding and being weary. I decided to put a 40w UV on the tank instead of watching this crap take over the tank. Worked like a charm. Dinos were gone in a couple of days and everything looking great. SPS growth began to take off! I had to increased 2 part 25ml daily over the passed week. Water clarity from the UV was a nice bonus.

That brings me to this morning. I walked down to the tank early in the morning to do some testing and feeding. I noticed my alk dropped again which was a sign of more growth! Everything was looking great. As I was packing up my alk kid I began hearing a crackle noise coming from under the stand. I checked but didn't see anything wrong. I kept hearing it and it was getting louder. Then I began hearing cracking noises. I thought it could have been the stand, didn't see anything wrong with the tank...... Then I saw the leaks and fractures. The Innovative Marine NUVO RFS 50 sump was coming apart. Not what I wanted to see.

I drained the sump, detached the plumbing, and hooked up controllers to run in the display. I grabbed a 75g from petco in the time being to run as a sump. Luckily everything looked ok. I increased surface agitation and added an airstoine in display while there was no sump running. Got everything running stable in the 75g for now.

Now to see if Innovative Marine will stand by their 4 month old sump.... I hope they do. I really like their tank...

This is what separates the seasoned pros from the average reefer. Ability, composure, and knowledge to roll with the waves. Mitigating disaster with quick concise responses. Well done sir!!
As far as the bugs... this was a in display treatment? Please elaborate on preparation, procedure, and ramifications of treatment, along with reading material(if possible).. please and thank you!

 

[Reefering1]

This tank is filling in very fast I must add

 

[X-37B]

Thats not good. First I have heard of a sump issue.
How high is the sumps water level? It looks like 9".

 

[jackson6745]

This is what separates the seasoned pros from the average reefer. Ability, composure, and knowledge to roll with the waves. Mitigating disaster with quick concise responses. Well done sir!!
As far as the bugs... this was a in display treatment? Please elaborate on preparation, procedure, and ramifications of treatment, along with reading material(if possible).. please and thank you!

Thanks for making me seem more calm and composed than I was. There was some panic initially lol and some emergency phone calls/texts @delv2323

So this was an in tank treatment. 3 large dog sentinel chews, pulverized to a powder, and shaken into a container then poured in. 24 hrs later I did a 25% WC and ran some carbon + mechanical filter pads. Did that twice, then the Dinos popped up. Were the Dinos because of a disturbance in biome from meds or from a reduction in organics from the water changes? I couldn't tell you. I'm leaning towards the biome being altered because the nutrients didn't drop much, and for very long before I bumped them back up where I prefer (.15. po4 and 12-15ppm no3). I don't have literature for this med, it was recommended from Adam at Battle corals and some others on an older reef central thread. It worked on the bugs though.

 

[jackson6745]

Thats not good. First I have heard of a sump issue.
How high is the sumps water level? It looks like 9".

I think about 9" is where I was running. Not much water pressure on it. I dunno man. This thing looks like it was kicked a bunch of times. The seams were popping and cracking fast!

 

[X-37B]

I think about 9" is where I was running. Not much water pressure on it. I dunno man. This thing looks like it was kicked a bunch of times. The seams were popping and cracking fast!

Ouch. I have the 170 and really prefer an 80g no baffle sump.
Hope I dont need it though.

 

[jackson6745]

Ouch. I have the 170 and really prefer an 80g no baffle sump.
Hope I dont need it though.

Hopefully just an isolated incident

 

[jackson6745]

Innovative Marine is shipping a new sump to me. Very happy that they stand by their product because I really like their tanks. They said that their sumps are very sensitive to solvents and even fumes which could be the reason. Besides cleaning my glass with alcohol once in a while, nothing else stands out in my mind. Water cleanings from now on I guess

I had a new toy delivered a day before the sump gave out on me. Decided to get it running on the temporary sump since it’s easy to remove and swap etc. To continue on with the old school trend, with a newer twist on running it, I decided on an avast marine mutiny ozone reactor. I did pull the UV off of the system. It’s just too big and cumbersome to keep plumbed in.

Just a few coral pics for those who like to scroll lol

 

[X-37B]

No

Innovative Marine is shipping a new sump to me. Very happy that they stand by their product because I really like their tanks. They said that their sumps are very sensitive to solvents and even fumes which could be the reason. Besides cleaning my glass with alcohol once in a while, nothing else stands out in my mind. Water cleanings from now on I guess

I had a new toy delivered a day before the sump gave out on me. Decided to get it running on the temporary sump since it’s easy to remove and swap etc. To continue on with the old school trend, with a newer twist on running it, I decided on an avast marine mutiny ozone reactor. I did pull the UV off of the system. It’s just too big and cumbersome to keep plumbed in.

Just a few coral pics for those who like to scroll lol

Not sure why they say the sump is sensitive to solvent since its welded together with solvent.
Solvent fumes well, lol.
Anyway glad they are sending you a new one.
I have the Mutiny reactor also for my 170. They are nice units. I did replace the noodles with hdpe k3 bio media. They are cheap and when they get dirty I can take them out and add new while cleaning the others.

 

[jackson6745]

No
Not sure why they say the sump is sensitive to solvent since its welded together with solvent.
Solvent fumes well, lol.
Anyway glad they are sending you a new one.
I have the Mutiny reactor also for my 170. They are nice units. I did replace the noodles with hdpe k3 bio media. They are cheap and when they get dirty I can take them out and add new while cleaning the others.

Thanks I’ll look into that media



Month 4 in the books!

 

[jackson6745]

replacement sump back in action and the tank is on point. I wanted to feel like an LED reefer so here’s a blue led/ orange gel video .

Going to be plumbing in a grow out tank soon. Not sure what yet. Ideally something 6’x36x16”. Going to be pricing builds. Really would love to have a lighter weight tank that I could move with a buddy. Cost, weight, dimensions, build time, volume ….. are all considerations. I’ll be thinking hard about this. The plan is to keep collecting and growing out, but reduce the number of sps in the display as they grow. Eventually I’ll have to remove rock as well (not yet!)

 

[tritonpower]

replacement sump back in action and the tank is on point. I wanted to feel like an LED reefer so here’s a blue led/ orange gel video .

Going to be plumbing in a grow out tank soon. Not sure what yet. Ideally something 6’x36x16”. Going to be pricing builds. Really would love to have a lighter weight tank that I could move with a buddy. Cost, weight, dimensions, build time, volume ….. are all considerations. I’ll be thinking hard about this. The plan is to keep collecting and growing out, but reduce the number of sps in the display as they grow. Eventually I’ll have to remove rock as well (not yet!)

looking good. I love your attempt to crowd in the acros. Like you said, you will need to trim and remove quite a few but it's hard to tell early on which ones will grow large. I lost all my big acros recently so I will be starting over with smaller frags like you soon. Looking forward to watching your corals grow out.

 

[jackson6745]

looking good. I love your attempt to crowd in the acros. Like you said, you will need to trim and remove quite a few but it's hard to tell early on which ones will grow large. I lost all my big acros recently so I will be starting over with smaller frags like you soon. Looking forward to watching your corals grow out.

Thanks! It sucks what happened to your tank. That’s the worst case for any of us to deal with in this hobby. I’m looking forward to forward to your rebuild.

 

[polywise]

Hi Rich,
Stunning glowing colors when under blues...good job !

side question:
Do you have a backup generator for this system?

 

[jackson6745]

Hi Rich,
Stunning glowing colors when under blues...good job !

side question:
Do you have a backup generator for this system?

Thanks Jim. Work in progress. I prefer the full spectrum view lol. For now I have EcoFlow battery backups on my Vortechs and return pump which gets me 4-5 hours to get home and hook up a generator manually. I plan on having a home generator installed this summer which will make things easier and safer.

I forgot to update about a very special coral. Took a couple of months to get this one, but it’s a must have if you’re an OG collector. Tyree Purple monster from Thirstysreef. Very excited to have a shot at growing this one out again. Here’s a pic from the first day. I’ll update on it each few months.

I’m still trying to get my old tenuis. Reefbum had a ton of it but recently downsized and is growing out again. Pirates reef has it but they’re charging $300. I gave away so many of those frags and sold so many for cheap. Would suck to have to spend $300 for a piece but I’m feeling the need to have a piece of that $20 tenuis that I grew out years ago lol

 

[polywise]

Rich,
You have a good COLORED starting point with that frag.
My current PM frag named "let's see howe this one does" is covering the frag plug with just a nub growing out of it, but nowhere as colorful as yours.

Did you ever get a frag from my colony back when? It was struggling and I think I was asking you to see if you could get it growing. Well this is what it ended up growing out to.

 

[jackson6745]

Rich,
You have a good COLORED starting point with that frag.
My current PM frag named "let's see howe this one does" is covering the frag plug with just a nub growing out of it, but nowhere as colorful as yours.

Did you ever get a frag from my colony back when? It was struggling and I think I was asking you to see if you could get it growing. Well this is what it ended up growing out to.

I remember you telling me about it years ago but I don’t think I made it back to you. Your PM was thick like a tree stump! I was just about to start my hiatus from the hobby back then with 2 small kids. I had a nice growing small colony of it back then with the original frag from Copps. Got too busy to feed often with a tank full of colonies and everything started rtn/stn with no nutrients. When I know I’ll be busy for a few days, I absolutely pollute this tank lol. I’d rather have the nutrients spike, instead of bottom out.

Unrelated, but I just wanted to keep this thread updated with current pics, growth, and polyp extension. I like to look back in years to come lol.

 

[Z Burn's Reefing]

Rich, you still dosing the ESV b-ionic? How many mls per day are you up to and how are you handling the salinity creep? Just removing a little bit of saltwater or are you adjusting salinity each time you do a water change?

Also, speaking of water changes...what is your routine? Do you do them? How often and %? Thanks!

 

[jackson6745]

Rich, you still dosing the ESV b-ionic? How many mls per day are you up to and how are you handling the salinity creep? Just removing a little bit of saltwater or are you adjusting salinity each time you do a water change?

Also, speaking of water changes...what is your routine? Do you do them? How often and %? Thanks!

Yea still dosing esv. Dosing 110ml daily of each part to hold levels at the moment. Salinity not creeping up much at these levels for this water volume. I always take water out for dips and stuff which gets replaced by ATO. Seems to keep salinity stable. I’m doing water changes every 2 weeks about 40-45 gallons.