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Large cell Amphidinium goes into sand for the record that is why UV don’t touch it

That would lead me to believe this is prococentrum as the intensity is much weaker and less numerous when lights go out.
 

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brand new bulb of UV plus antibiotic pill with BT7,this method works to me for syno and brown jerry killing. i agreed that its a complicated procese but much better than just black out the tank.
We are talking Dinos here. If it is large cell Amphidinium UV won’t help as per my experience.
I don’t think black out will work in this case but I would wait for positive ID first. Just because I have only first hand experience with Amphidinium both small and large cell.


That would lead me to believe this is prococentrum as the intensity is much weaker and less numerous when lights go out.

In my tank large cell Amphidinium was always looking better in the morning than in the afternoon. I feel this will not be a deciding point itself
 
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We are talking Dinos here. If it is large cell Amphidinium UV won’t help as per my experience.
I don’t think black out will work in this case but I would wait for positive ID first. Just because I have only first hand experience with Amphidinium both small and large cell.




In my tank large cell Amphidinium was always looking better in the morning than in the afternoon. I feel this will not be a deciding point itself

But I’m assuming that this case of dinos is narrowed down to specifically these two species. I did not see any circular movement so I don’t believe this is ostreopsis. Also I am starting to get a green film on my glass which I believe is a good sign indicating other algae’s can now grow at a faster rate.
 

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But I’m assuming that this case of dinos is narrowed down to specifically these two species. I did not see any circular movement so I don’t believe this is ostreopsis. Also I am starting to get a green film on my glass which I believe is a good sign indicating other algae’s can now grow at a faster raise.
Yes I am sure it is not Ostreopsis (shape don’t match) and yes green film algae is good sign too.

I would still wait for the ID. Unless you can confirm no beak like front which would make it Amphidinium for sure.
 
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Yes I am sure it is not Ostreopsis (shape don’t match) and yes green film algae is good sign too.

I would still wait for the ID. Unless you can confirm no beak like front which would make it Amphidinium for sure.

I assume the general concensus is that silicate dosing works for both amphidinium and prococentrum?
 
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Safe bet I believe

lol after lights out my sand bed looks like this. Corals are droopy because I I turned on the lights just for the photo.
 

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lol after lights out my sand bed looks like this. Corals are droopy because I I turned on the lights just for the photo.
Mine was similar. I think you may have caught it on time.
have look how bad it can get in my build tread so you can feel better ;)
 

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Update: I took a microscope ID of those dinos, but I’m having a difficult time figuring out which species they are. Can anyone ID? I attached a video, and I believe it is only viewable through laptop and desktop.
Hard to make out, but the swim pattern matches large cell amphidinium and I believe I could just make out a hooked beak or two.
 

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That would lead me to believe this is prococentrum as the intensity is much weaker and less numerous when lights go out.
Any chance you could bump up the magnification a little bit? We have the swim pattern video, so just a pic would do.
 
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Hard to make out, but the swim pattern matches large cell amphidinium and I believe I could just make out a hooked beak or two.

I narrowed it down to procentrum or LCA, so I’m going ahead with silicate dosing along with the other normal Dino combat methods.
 
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Any chance you could bump up the magnification a little bit? We have the swim pattern video, so just a pic would do.

I got a video with decent magnification. Here ya go!
 

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You should try dosing some phytoplankton, it helped a lot when I had dinoflagellates.

Would seachem s brand work? I’m pretty tight for money due to being in HS, so I can’t really afford algae barns stuff.
 

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Yeah, it should. You could also try the mercer brand on Amazon, it’s only like 13 dollars or something, and it is very easy to cultivate. Also still in high school, so I know what it is like to be on a budget.
 
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Yeah, it should. You could also try the mercer brand on Amazon, it’s only like 13 dollars or something, and it is very easy to cultivate. Also still in high school, so I know what it is like to be on a budget.

Sounds epic
 

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Not sure if anything has changed but I have had an outbreak twice for similar reasons and Algaebarns phyto has helped both times. It takes about 2 weeks to start noticing a difference but once it kicks in it clears up very fast
 
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