Reef Chemistry Puzzle #2

[MnFish1]

Is this a single compound? I wanted to say co2 but clearly carbonic acid isn't co2.

If it's a single compound, then this is a tough one. First thought was ammonia or co2, but my guess is a different compound or aqueous solution isn't the answer here.

Do you mean a compound or an element. IMHO - 'liquid ammonia' unless under high pressure - is dissolved in water - it's not actually 'liquid ammonia'. Same with CO2. And they are not elements. Same with H2O. And I don't know of anyone thats more concerned today vs 10 years ago about H2O,, CO2 or Ammonia?

 

[Court_Appointed_Hypeman]

Do you mean a compound or an element. IMHO - 'liquid ammonia' unless under high pressure - is dissolved in water - it's not actually 'liquid ammonia'. Same with CO2. And they are not elements. Same with H2O. And I don't know of anyone thats more concerned today vs 10 years ago about H2O,, CO2 or Ammonia?

I meant compound. Different compound, but same element as we decribe them present, that's what my thinking was.

Edit: if we are talking a single element then I put my money on co2/carbonic acid

 

[MnFish1]

I meant compound. Different compound, but same element as we decribe them present, that's what my thinking was.

Edit: if we are talking a single element then I put my money on co2/carbonic acid

Co2/carbonic acid is not a single element.
EDIT - Congrats - you were correct!

 

[PapaFishRocks]

After effects of eating Taco Bell

 

[Court_Appointed_Hypeman]

Co2/carbonic acid is not a single element.

I understand that, they are 2 different compounds.

I don't think we deal with any single ionic element.

Putting it simply, talking about CO2 in the hobby, both CO2 and H2CO3 are referred to as CO2

 

[Raul-7]

H2O

 

[danimal1211]

Carbonic acid reduces ph
Atomic number 89=Ac, 53=I, 110=Ds
Google was my friend

Edit, I should have said AcIDs reduce PH

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Reef Chemistry Puzzle 2

2 clues today

A. At room temperature, I am typically either a gas or a liquid
B. The fraction of reefkeepers who experience displeasure with me is more today than ten years ago (in my opinion)

What am I?

Good luck!


Previous Reef Chemistry Puzzle:

Chemistry Puzzle #1

Two Clues: A. Used to reduce alkalinity B. 89 53 110 What am I? Correct answer must fit both clues Good luck! .

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Water seems a good fit for this one. Carbon dioxide is typically not a liquid at room temperature, in pressure cylinders that we use for reef tanks, my understanding it is a solid that sublimates to release gas when the valve is opened.

The "displeasure" with water could be all of the people sending out samples for ICP analysis. I do understand that it really isn't the H2O that they are displeased with, just the contaminants (grin).

Jay

 

[rhitee93]

... my understanding it is a solid that sublimates to release gas when the valve is opened.

Close. CO2 is a liquid in the cylinders and boils off to produce the gas. (They are roughly 800psi at room temperature)

My first impression when I read this yesterday was CO2, but quickly dismissed it. Do we ever get the answers to these?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

And the answer is...

The specific answer I was looking for is CO2.

A. At room temperature, I am typically either a gas or a liquid
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CO2 is a gas at room temp and pressure, and can be a liquid when under pressure such as in a cylinder used for a CaCO3/CO2 reactor.
It would only be a solid at room temperature under extremely high pressure (>1000 atmospheres) that would not be encountered in everyday life:

File:Phase changes of CO2.png - Wikimedia Commons

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B. The fraction of reefkeepers who experience displeasure with me is more today than ten years ago (in my opinion)

I was basing this on the increased focus on pH related to hard coral growth, and the unhappiness many find in realizing that indoor CO2 levels are driving their high tank CO2 levels and hence low pH. Ten years ago, not focusing on pH was more prevalent.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Water seems a good fit for this one.

Water could fit, I'm just not sure the fraction of reefers displeased with water itself (arguably as opposed to components in it) is higher than 10 years ago, but it might be.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Mercury can be both and there is a lot of talk about mercury in seafood lately.

Mercury certainly fits gas and liquid, but I'm not sure more folks are displeased with it today. MH and fluorescent bulbs are in decline, so reefers may even think about it less.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Probably wrong, but iodine?

Iodine, as I2, only exists as a solid or a gas. There's no liquid form of I at room temperature.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I vote ammonia

Pure ammonia is only a gas at room pressure, but it is a liquid under higher pressure..

A mix of ammonia and water fits the gas and liquid part, but I'm not convinced that folks are more displeased with any aspects of ammonia and water mixtures than they were 10 years ago.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Bromine or Mercury (I would guess people have always been concerned about mercury - so - probably more concerned about bromine

Bromine fits the liquid and gas part, and one certainly could argue that more folks are displeased with it since 10 years ago most reefers never thought about it and now they see it as a value in their ICP that they might not like.

I have to give this one full credit, despite it not being what I was looking for.

 

[Reefkeepers Archive]

Iodine, as I2, only exists as a solid or a gas. There's no liquid form of I at room temperature.

Wait, then what have I been dipping my corals in?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Wait, then what have I been dipping my corals in?

If it is Lugols, that is a water solution that contains I2 and KI (I-). When combined, they form I3- which is soluble in water when I2 alone is not.

I2 itself forms little purplish/black/grey solid chunks.

What is iodine? | Uses for Iodine Products | Iochem Iodine Manufacturer

What is iodine? Iodine products, including flake iodine, prill iodine and resublimed iodine are used in commercial and scientific uses. Iodine

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[BrokenReefer]

I was gonna same Magnesium …

 

[Tavero]

And the answer is...

The specific answer I was looking for is CO2.

A. At room temperature, I am typically either a gas or a liquid
'
CO2 is a gas at room temp and pressure, and can be a liquid when under pressure such as in a cylinder used for a CaCO3/CO2 reactor.
It would only be a solid at room temperature under extremely high pressure (>1000 atmospheres) that would not be encountered in everyday life:

File:Phase changes of CO2.png - Wikimedia Commons

commons.wikimedia.org

B. The fraction of reefkeepers who experience displeasure with me is more today than ten years ago (in my opinion)

I was basing this on the increased focus on pH related to hard coral growth, and the unhappiness many find in realizing that indoor CO2 levels are driving their high tank CO2 levels and hence low pH. Ten years ago, not focusing on pH was more prevalent.

I had hoped it is water.
CO2 is a kinda lame answer if you ask me. Pretty much any gas can be a liquid under pressure. Ammonia, Nitrogen, Iodine you name it. They all fit the description.

With water it would at least fit the rule of riddles to "hide the tree in the forest"

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I had hoped it is water.
CO2 is a kinda lame answer if you ask me. Pretty much any gas can be a liquid under pressure. Ammonia, Nitrogen, Iodine you name it. They all fit the description.

With water it would at least fit the rule of riddles to "hide the tree in the forest"

Iodine is not a liquid at any pressure at room temperature (see the phase diagram below).

Ammonia and nitrogen fail clue 2. Nitrogen also is not a liquid a room temp. It goes supercritical before liquifying.