Copperband butterfly in mixed reef.

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  1. Fish_Tank_J

    Fish_Tank_J Member

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    I was wondering if I could put a Copperband Butterfly in a 70 gallon mixed reef with many corals.
     
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    It's 50/50. The store I got mine from kept him in their frag tank so I took the chance. So far he has not nipped, but that behavior could always change. I really like mine though and somehow my mean old yellow tang accepted him, so it's a risk I am willing to take.
     
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    I put my CBB in a 300g mixed reef with 3 tangs (yellow, sailfin, naso) and a variety of other fish - haven't had any issues at all.

    Also no issues with it nipping at corals. If you have any feather dusters, the CBB will likely eat those, just FYI
     
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    I would recommend against that. CBBs are difficult fish, and need to be worked around. They get big, a 70, would not typically be a suitable size for them. They will eat feather dusters and christmas tree worms, these form a large component of their natural diet. Lps corals, especially euphyllia will always be a risk. Some even eat softies, I have heard of them eating, zoas, kennya tree, mushrooms, xenia just to name a few.

    That being said often they don't bother any corals, but you never know, and that can change at any time. Beautiful fish and worth the effort if you are prepared to work around them, not just in stocking corals, but also fish, and diet.
     
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    In terms of "Reef Safe Butterfly Fish" it generally goes as follows

    1. Pyramid Butterflyfish
    2. Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish and Copperband
    3. Nothing else

    Many people have had success with the copperband not nipping, but they are considered one of the worst butterflyfish to survive in captivity. The general consensus is that the more reef safe butterflyfish they are recommended for tanks over 100 gallons for long term success.

    It's a bit of a stretch but if you don't have one you could try a Coral Beauty Dwarf Angel as it would be better suited to that size tank and it would be about the same risk as the Longnose and Copperband.
     
  6. eatbreakfast

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    They can be difficult, but finding one at an LFS goes a long way to having success.

    I've had a few copperbands in reefs. Most were safe with corals, though the last one I had did pick at acans.

    Zoster, marginalis, and Heniochus diphreutes are considered as safe as these mentioned.
     
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    I've had my CBB in my 240 mixed reef for several years and have never seen it go after any corals.
     
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    Mine is in a 75g mixed since last Spring. No issues with the corals or clam, can't say the same for Aptasia.
     
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    I have been keeping them since the 70s, no problems yet.

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    I've had mine for a few years and he is no problem with any of my coral (SPS, duncans, acans, zoas, euphyllia). Mine is also an aiptasia exterminator. As noted above the only draw back for me is feather dusters and Christmas tree worms, both of which I would like to keep.....just not as much as I want to keep my CBB.
     
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    Nice possum pygmy wrasse (is that correct?). Very nice little fish.
     
  12. Paul B

    Paul B Valuable Member R2R Supporter Reef Spotlight Award Article Contributor Build Thread Contributor

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    That's him. It is a nice little fish,
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    As is this little guy. A perchlet.
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    But these may be my favorite

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    personally I would not. They are just not aggressive enough to the food with more active feeders. I've seen them hold their own seemly in a mixed system. But if you see them get a mellow environment and how they eat then, you'd quickly realize they are best with gentle reef types and really blossom in that type of environment. Then you get to see their real personalities. I keep mine with a regal angel and three very small centropygi angels. All in a 135 gallon tank. If you have tangs, triggers or pomachantus angels, you would better off with heniochus butterflies. I have three in my 440 gallon and they school, eat anything and you can't 'kill'm with a bull dozer' once they settle in. short coming is they grow fast when happy
     
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    I put one in my 90 about a month ago to kill the demon weed Aiptesia. I tried everything else before adding this guy as I know they can be very difficult to keep. Last thing I want is to have a fish die. So far, so good. He’s anialated the Aiptesia and he’s eating Mysis shrimp like a champ. I haven’t seen him pick at any corals yet. Hopefully he will continue to grow and thrive. What all does everyone feed their Cbb’s?
     
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    Mine eats anything frozen. Specifically loves LRS and Masstick. I'd like to try to get him to eat some kind of dry food.
     
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    If you did not spot feed the pipefish, would it survive with daily broadcast feeding amongst more aggressive eaters?
     
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    The bluestrips would have no problems but dragon face and Janss would have a very hard time
     
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    Mine is in a mixed reef. It nips at acans occasionally but not enough to stop them from growing. Doesn’t bother anything else (except that it likes to steal food from corals that I’m trying to feed).

    They are hard to feed at first; be prepared. For the first month mine would only eat live black worms. Then it started eating live clams. After about a week of that it started taking LRS reef frenzy and maastik smashed into the tank glass. Now it eats everything including flakes.
     
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