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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brandon429" data-source="post: 9751932" data-attributes="member: 48701">in every single case of a cycle concern, consider the cycle done and ready and the need for fish disease controls as the actual concern. people will hyperfocus on 3 part param compliance, from test kits that don't read correctly for the masses, and this takes away focus on disease preps which is where all the disease loss on the forum manifests.I have personally never seen a bad cycle cause fish death, not once among a million logged cycles online where they didnt even wait to add fish. 95% of losses manifest weeks / months after cycling completed whether or not nitrite was factored or not.people are told to input five times too much ammonia at the start, so if there are any concerns on week 2 at the end just do a large water change/the filter bacteria are left attached to surfaces always, then you can begin.</blockquote>