6/13/2016 - Day 36 (still) - Snails are SUCH a PITA...
It's not my fault! Okay; it likely is, but not in the way I thought. Today involved a lot of observation, testing, more observation, more testing, and then two more snails. Oh yeah - and a 30gal water change.
So I watched the numbers all day as everything basically stabilized itself again. Ammonia climbed up a little - up to 0.010 before the water change. This is likely because there was still dead stuff in there (two snails were buried inside some rock piles). So while doing the 30gal water change, I pulled my rock apart and took them out. Also found the other Nassarius that's still alive; so yup - two of those in the tank cleaning things. They need to step it up some; it's a big tank and they're just wee little guys...
Anyways; I also went back to the LFS. Figured I'd give them a chance to give me their opinions on what went wrong. After I rattled off my numbers (from both before and after, as well as since), they basically chastised me for not bringing in a water sample. When that attitude came out, I decided asking for a refund or replacements just wasn't in the cards. Better to chalk it up as a lesson and walk away. Still; got a bucket of salt and I picked up two more snails. Not because I really wanted the snails from them, but because I wanted to test some of THEIR water. I'm not saying that I'm any kind of pro at testing water (as I'd hope they are), but I was curious to see how my results compared to both what I had and what they said they had. I figured anything I'm doing or using that's incorrect or altering, it will at least be consistent; so apples-to-apples.
And wow. I was shocked.
I'm now at 1.025 SG. They are 1.015. I say "now at" because I discovered that my refractometer calibration was off by 0.02. Whoops - need to be sure to check that more often.
After the 30gal water change, my dKH ended up at 11.1 (new salt). The water is 5.8dKH. Big difference.
Ph was at least in the ballpark - I'm at 8.06 right now (and rising) while they have ~8.4.
I'd only grabbed a single bag of their water, and at this point I figured I'd need every drop of it to acclimate the two new snails slowly into my water. So after hours of temperature acclimation in the bag, I put them on the slowest drip I could manage. I stopped the drip when I doubled the water volume. About 10 minutes later, one of them pulled up into it's shell and has yet to come out. The other seemed to slow down, but is now out of it's shell a bit more. I've no interest in adding more dead things into the tank, so I'm going to leave them in there until morning and see how they are.
Also; one result of taking the rock apart to get at the dead things is that I couldn't get it back together the same way. I've never been the type to put my Lego's together in the same way twice, so that's not really a surprise, I don't think. In any case; Lover's Arch isn't quite so heart-shaped any more. We'll likely keep the name, however - it's close enough that people won't think we're totally crazy. The wife also named the fish; the larger (and presumably female) is Merida (from Brave, because "she" was swimming around the entire tank and is... er... orange) while the smaller is Marvin (because "he" was hiding in the rocks at first and is a clown fish). I find it ironic that we named them based on their behavior while they were under the influence of ammonia poisoning, but it seems fitting, so the names will stick.
Edit: Both snails are moving again. Still; they stay where they are until the AM.
Edit (again): Aaaaand nope. Just as I was turning off the lights to go to bed, one of the suction cups breaks off from it's screw and the entire canister flips over. Another mess to clean up, and now the snails have no water for the night. Into the tank they go. *sigh* Best laid plans, and all that...
It's not my fault! Okay; it likely is, but not in the way I thought. Today involved a lot of observation, testing, more observation, more testing, and then two more snails. Oh yeah - and a 30gal water change.
So I watched the numbers all day as everything basically stabilized itself again. Ammonia climbed up a little - up to 0.010 before the water change. This is likely because there was still dead stuff in there (two snails were buried inside some rock piles). So while doing the 30gal water change, I pulled my rock apart and took them out. Also found the other Nassarius that's still alive; so yup - two of those in the tank cleaning things. They need to step it up some; it's a big tank and they're just wee little guys...
Anyways; I also went back to the LFS. Figured I'd give them a chance to give me their opinions on what went wrong. After I rattled off my numbers (from both before and after, as well as since), they basically chastised me for not bringing in a water sample. When that attitude came out, I decided asking for a refund or replacements just wasn't in the cards. Better to chalk it up as a lesson and walk away. Still; got a bucket of salt and I picked up two more snails. Not because I really wanted the snails from them, but because I wanted to test some of THEIR water. I'm not saying that I'm any kind of pro at testing water (as I'd hope they are), but I was curious to see how my results compared to both what I had and what they said they had. I figured anything I'm doing or using that's incorrect or altering, it will at least be consistent; so apples-to-apples.
And wow. I was shocked.
I'm now at 1.025 SG. They are 1.015. I say "now at" because I discovered that my refractometer calibration was off by 0.02. Whoops - need to be sure to check that more often.
After the 30gal water change, my dKH ended up at 11.1 (new salt). The water is 5.8dKH. Big difference.
Ph was at least in the ballpark - I'm at 8.06 right now (and rising) while they have ~8.4.
I'd only grabbed a single bag of their water, and at this point I figured I'd need every drop of it to acclimate the two new snails slowly into my water. So after hours of temperature acclimation in the bag, I put them on the slowest drip I could manage. I stopped the drip when I doubled the water volume. About 10 minutes later, one of them pulled up into it's shell and has yet to come out. The other seemed to slow down, but is now out of it's shell a bit more. I've no interest in adding more dead things into the tank, so I'm going to leave them in there until morning and see how they are.
Also; one result of taking the rock apart to get at the dead things is that I couldn't get it back together the same way. I've never been the type to put my Lego's together in the same way twice, so that's not really a surprise, I don't think. In any case; Lover's Arch isn't quite so heart-shaped any more. We'll likely keep the name, however - it's close enough that people won't think we're totally crazy. The wife also named the fish; the larger (and presumably female) is Merida (from Brave, because "she" was swimming around the entire tank and is... er... orange) while the smaller is Marvin (because "he" was hiding in the rocks at first and is a clown fish). I find it ironic that we named them based on their behavior while they were under the influence of ammonia poisoning, but it seems fitting, so the names will stick.
Edit: Both snails are moving again. Still; they stay where they are until the AM.
Edit (again): Aaaaand nope. Just as I was turning off the lights to go to bed, one of the suction cups breaks off from it's screw and the entire canister flips over. Another mess to clean up, and now the snails have no water for the night. Into the tank they go. *sigh* Best laid plans, and all that...
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