My wrasses need help

[cn246378]

Hi I recently bought some wrasses and I have had them for a week now doing the hybrid ttm. I didn't a water change this morning with hydro dip. But right now 2 of my wrasses are on the floor on thier side and breathing looks irregular. Othe wrasses have been in same quarantine and the look fine. I hit tank with prime incase ammonia gets it and do water change every other day to be safe. Can anyone help or tell me why. Will try to load a video of them

 

[cn246378]

Sorry it is my red fin wrasse as well as my Scott's fairy wrasse

 

[Jekyl]

Please add some white light pics and a short video. What are your ammonia and copper levels if using at and what tests are being used

 

[kingoftheHiLLpeople]

Sorry it is my red fin wrasse as well as my Scott's fairy wrasse

I cant view video - pics?

 

[cn246378]

Please add some white light pics and a short video. What are your ammonia and copper levels if using at and what tests are being used

Not using copper. And haven't checked ammonia since I just did water change.

I cant view video - pics?

Here are some pictures.

 

[cn246378]

Made video shorter hopefully you can see it

 

[kingoftheHiLLpeople]

I see what appear to be “spots” down the back in first pic. Breathing rapid? @Jay Hemdal

 

[cn246378]

I see what appear to be “spots” down the back in first pic. Breathing rapid? @Jay Hemdal

His breathing is actually not fast its the red fin that is fast. He just lays on his side which worries me. They both do move if I get near them with something. Net or feeding tube. Haven't really seen them eat. The last couple days

 

[kingoftheHiLLpeople]

Hmm… and in with other fish? I see goby reflection…

 

[cn246378]

Yes there is a Bella goby that is fine and 2 small wrasses that are also fine swimming around.

 

[Tamberav]

What type are the other wrasses?

I do hybrid TTM but found that fairy wrasses didn’t do too well with it. Sand sleepers did fine tho. Although I did give them sand to hide in.

The large white pvc isn’t ideal. I know it is what people recommend but you can see one hiding by the heater. Many fish don’t particularly feel hidden in bright white huge holes if you get my gist.

 

[cn246378]

The other 2 wrasses are a yellow Corris wrasse and a sea grass wrasse. How would you recommend qting fairy wrasses? Should I add maybe dark abs tubing instead of pvc though I haven't looked up if abs is safe in saltwater

 

[kingoftheHiLLpeople]

What is hybrid ttm - sorry unfamiliar?

 

[cn246378]

What is hybrid ttm - sorry unfamiliar?

I use the hybrid tank transfer mythod. I saw from humble fish & reef on youtube.

 

[kingoftheHiLLpeople]

I use the hybrid tank transfer mythod. I saw from humble fish & reef on youtube.

Hmm… ill have to educate myself on this.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Hi I recently bought some wrasses and I have had them for a week now doing the hybrid ttm. I didn't a water change this morning with hydro dip. But right now 2 of my wrasses are on the floor on thier side and breathing looks irregular. Othe wrasses have been in same quarantine and the look fine. I hit tank with prime incase ammonia gets it and do water change every other day to be safe. Can anyone help or tell me why. Will try to load a video of them

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

Do you have an ammonia test to get an actual reading of the level?

TTM does sometimes let parasites through, more than a regular quarantine does.

Here is a link to other info that is helpful for us to know:

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Jay

 

[cn246378]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

Do you have an ammonia test to get an actual reading of the level?

TTM does sometimes let parasites through, more than a regular quarantine does.

Here is a link to other info that is helpful for us to know:

Some Helpful Hints When Posting or Responding to Threads in the Fish Disease Treatment and Diagnosis Section

Aquarium Fish Disease Problem Solving Determining the best course of action for a problem with your aquarium can be a difficult task. Even advanced aquarists will often need to seek the help of others for complicated or unique issues. Our intent here on Reef 2 Reef is to offer expert advice...

www.reef2reef.com

I have the redsea test kit. I can test when I get home from work. Thank you for your response and I will try to get that information out as soon as I can. I just checked on them and Scott's is in the same spot again and red fin is in the pvc both look similar still

 

[Tamberav]

The other 2 wrasses are a yellow Corris wrasse and a sea grass wrasse. How would you recommend qting fairy wrasses? Should I add maybe dark abs tubing instead of pvc though I haven't looked up if abs is safe in saltwater

I would probably just do traditional QT rather than moving them all the time.

I have spare freshwater hiding places like a plastic log and a grey skull and the fish always prefer those over pvc when put together. I think simply because the freshwater decorations coloration looks aged/normal. Black pvc is probably better if it’s safe.

 

[cn246378]

Update they both died.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Sorry to hear. In terms of damage control, you need to ensure the rest of the fish are protected. The first thing is to rule out any ammonia issues. If that is fine, then the next most common issue would be velvet (Amyloodinium) that got through the TTM process. The remaining fish have been exposed and could likely develop the same problem. In that case, coppersafe at full strength for 30 days in a QT would be my suggestion.

Jay