Need help with powder blue tang.

[arcticfox]

Need help diagnosing these bumps. I ordered 6 tangs and received a yellow tang, gem tang and blue hippo tang on Tuesday and put them in a quarantine tank with copper and Furan 2 with some prazi pro, on Wednesday I received the other 3 tangs including 2 purple tangs and 1 powder blue tang. This morning I noticed the blue powder tang has raised bumps with white spots. I am suspecting ich but was also concerned maybe it is copper poisoning. The copper was at 1.3 yesterday and did a water change today and it increased to 2.01 Hanna checked. No other fish are showing any signs and all fish seem to be eating. Any thought would be appreciated,

 

[vetteguy53081]

These look like nodes from previous or existing parasite. You may try FW bath for temporary relief and a copper safe treatment or even ruby rally pro along with good water quality and diet with vitamins added

 

[zenan81]

It is ich

 

[Sam816]

you have copper, furan 2 and prazi in the QT together? was the QT cycled beforehand?

It is definitely ich.

 

[arcticfox]

you have copper, furan 2 and prazi in the QT together? was the QT cycled beforehand?

It is definitely ich.

Yes the tank has all 3 in there, my last furan treatment is tomorrow with the copper at 2.02 as of today. I know in articles they say to separate fish with ich to treat but he’s in QT the other fish. No one else shows any signs yet and all fish are eating. I do have a air stone suppling air and fish are fed 2 times a day with water changes every other day. Is there any other process I need to do besides observing them all?

 

[Sam816]

it is usually not recommended to add multiple meds in one go. also if i am not wrong copper safe has to be at 2.5ppm concentration. research about it before u increase it just to be sure. at right concentration the spots should go away in 4 days(personal experience) and don't come back.
you can try taste enchancers like garlic guard or entice from seachem to get the PBT eating. its really important that it eats .

 

[arcticfox]

This is my first time having a quarantine tank and actually treat fish. I never owned a powder blue tang or a tang from the Acanthurus family but the article I read from marine collectors “success with Acanthurus tangs” says to run a combination medicines.
Coppersafe at 2ppm
Parsi at 5ml per 20 gallons
Nitrofurazone at 1/2 teaspoon per 20 gallons
Freshwater dip w/praziquantel 1ml per gallon.

As I said before this is my first time doing this and if I am doing it wrong, any advice to help save fish I am happy to try and learn.

if I am wrong with this process let me know.

 

[Sam816]

I don't think you can do much except provide stable/safe environment and healthy diet. copper will take care of the ich. I would keep lights dim and enrich the food with fish vitamins. if you can get live black worms or brine shrimps that will entice the fish to eat. My foxface and moorish idol love hikari seaweed extreme. i am hoping tangs would love it too. its less messy imo, rich in sea greens (for better immunity of tangs) and you can feed multiple small feedings with an auto-feeder. avoid checking on the fish every now n then. wifi cams are a great way to keep an eye on fish without stressing them.. best of luck.

 

[Brittanyjo]

Can you update us on what you learned?
I have always been told one Med at a time, so I’m curious.

 

[arcticfox]

sorry it took so long to update! Update with my powder blue is that he didn’t make it. I should of researched drip acclimation with and airstone. Apparently what I had read online is that using air while acclimating fish is that it rises the ammonia to toxic levels and ph also goes up. I dont believe using the 2-3 medications at the same time was the Problem. I did get a second powder blue and didn’t do a drip acclimation process but still treated it with the same medication with great success. Do signs signs of ick or any other Diseases or parasites. It is healthy.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Need help diagnosing these bumps. I ordered 6 tangs and received a yellow tang, gem tang and blue hippo tang on Tuesday and put them in a quarantine tank with copper and Furan 2 with some prazi pro, on Wednesday I received the other 3 tangs including 2 purple tangs and 1 powder blue tang. This morning I noticed the blue powder tang has raised bumps with white spots. I am suspecting ich but was also concerned maybe it is copper poisoning. The copper was at 1.3 yesterday and did a water change today and it increased to 2.01 Hanna checked. No other fish are showing any signs and all fish seem to be eating. Any thought would be appreciated,

Copper won't cause that. What brand of copper are you using? I agree with @vetteguy53081 these are likely bumps from some parasite. Since PBT are SO prone to ich, you need to run copper first in order to resolve that potential issue. A FW dip could buy you some time, and then you can run Prazipro after the copper. You might even stop the copper after 14 days, run the prazi and then run 2 more weeks of copper.

Jay