Cool, thanks for everything!Correct… it’s in my tank thread a couple pages back from the last post..
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Cool, thanks for everything!Correct… it’s in my tank thread a couple pages back from the last post..
Slow is always better in this hobby! lol.. if you don’t have corals then yeah we can bring them down today with gfo and a huge water change but corals don’t like that kinda change.Lowered to 20ml MB7 the past few days, continuing with 7ml BB, 2ml Elim. Past few days show NO3 slowly rising, whilst PO4 slowly dropping. Interesting trend. Trying to balance the nutrients maybe?
Think I'll move to 2x per week testing, since I'm not too concerned with nutrients moving quickly. Seems like a slow moving ship, which hopefully will sail me to the promise land someday. LOL.
How does your tank look? Is it accepting the change and looking better or worse..Did the past week at 10ml MB7, continuing with 7ml BB, 2ml Elim.
Nutrients seemed to have leveled out, very little action.
NO3 37.7 to 36, PO4 0.53 to 0.52.
Options:
1. Go back to 20ml MB7 for another week to confirm MB7 effectiveness.
2. Keep MB7 at 10ml, increase Elim to 3ml, and decrease BB (to 5ml?).
3. Continue with 10ml MB7, 7ml BB, 2ml Elim to see a longer term trend.
Thoughts?
Definitely better water quality, and corals like this scheme, shown by brightening up, and better colors. There is a little brown algae forming on the glass, which I never had before.How does your tank look? Is it accepting the change and looking better or worse..
I’d say stay on your path of bringing them down to level you want and then just stick with bacto balance and the mb7 once it’s where your tank looks the best. The numbers you’re at are pretty solid looking at most of the tanks today. Mine personally runs much lower nitrates but my p04 finally stabilized around yours after using reef roids for awhile cause it was bottomed out.Definitely better water quality, and corals like this scheme, shown by brightening up, and better colors. There is a little brown algae forming on the glass, which I never had before.
Fish and inverts are fine. Some rock work which was on the browner side is getting less brown and showing whiteness. Coralline algae is also breaking up in some places and being replaced by a light sandlike color.
Overall seems fine though.
Okay thanks, I'll stay the course.I’d say stay on your path of bringing them down to level you want and then just stick with bacto balance and the mb7 once it’s where your tank looks the best. The numbers you’re at are pretty solid looking at most of the tanks today. Mine personally runs much lower nitrates but my p04 finally stabilized around yours after using reef roids for awhile cause it was bottomed out.
From reading around, it seems like this overproduction of bubbles, to the extent where it packs the skimmer cup, could be due to too much carbon dosing. So I am going to reduce the BB to 4ml, increase the Elim to 3ml, and keep the MB7 at 10ml. I started MB7 around the same time as BB, so MB7 could be a contributing factor, but I'd like to keep the MB7 dosage the same so I don't introduce another variable.Okay thanks, I'll stay the course.
I've also noticed the skimmer cup fills up with bubbles that do not burst. This morning when I went to clean the skimmer cup (every 4 days), I noticed that the bubbles were packed in so much that they reached the air output in the cover, which pushes oxygen to my moisture collector, the output of which then goes to my co2 scrubber to recirculate to the skimmer.
The moisture collector seems to fill up more lately due to the bubbles reaching that output. I think those bubbles had been impeding the flow of oxygen to some extent, which could have possibly had a negative effect on nutrient reduction by limiting oxygen to the bacteria.
Maybe I'm using too much BB which is causing this bubble excess?
It’s not a bad idea since they might be counteracting each other.. you could prolly stop the bactobalance till there down and then switch from elim to straight bacto. If my memory serves me correct bacto has n03 and p04 in it to keep from bottoming out.From reading around, it seems like this overproduction of bubbles, to the extent where it packs the skimmer cup, could be due to too much carbon dosing. So I am going to reduce the BB to 4ml, increase the Elim to 3ml, and keep the MB7 at 10ml. I started MB7 around the same time as BB, so MB7 could be a contributing factor, but I'd like to keep the MB7 dosage the same so I don't introduce another variable.
I never had this problem when solely dosing Elim for the first month of this year, so I'm comfortable increasing the Elim dosage without affecting the bubble production. It's either too much BB or too much MB7, or a combo.
My thought was to try to keep the nutrients in balance whilst lowering them, so was going for the best of both worlds. I never tried just Elimi and MB7 without the BB. I'll see how this goes for a week, and keep that in mind for the next trial.It’s not a bad idea since they might be counteracting each other.. you could prolly stop the bactobalance till there down and then switch from elim to straight bacto. If my memory serves me correct bacto has n03 and p04 in it to keep from bottoming out.
Reducing the BB dose was not a good idea. In just 2 days, NO3 jumped from 23.6 to 25.7, and PO4 jumped from 0.44 to 0.60. Brought the BB dose back to 7ml. Also started a daily 10ml Elimi Phos Rapid dose today. Dosed all at once into the Clarisea fleece roller. It dropped PO4 to 0.55 in about an hour, so that’s encouraging. Fish and inverts don’t seem to mind. I’ll be doing this for a while, testing 2x per week: BB=7ml, Elimi NP=4ml, Elimi Phos=10ml, MB7=5ml.Looks like I hit an inflection point over the past month. NO3 bottomed at 22.6 and PO4 bottomed at 0.4. I've waited a couple weeks to be sure.