not a death sentence, but will take some time to beat. i do believe this to be dino's.
first, what are your water parameters? what is your filtration?
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cnjcpb
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26 gallon AIO. Nitrate 0 phos 0 ph 8.1 Alk 9 calcium 390 ammonia 0 salinity 1.024 temp 79. I run skimmer 24/7 and have filter floss with bio media. Dosing 2ml of MB7 once a week. Just started dosing all for reef 1ml a day. dosing all for reef made my ph jump from 7.8 to 8.1 quickly. Alk stayed same.
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cut back on dosing MB7, and dose some nitrates/phosphates. the MB7 is likely keeping your numbers at double 0 causing the issue. i would dose 1ml/10G of hydrogen peroxide to help kill off the dino's and potentially cyano. once you start seeing numbers when you test for no3/po4(ideally anything over 3ppm no3 and 0.01 po4), then dose MB7 at half the dose you normally do, so 1ml/week. turn off skimmer to help with raising nutrients(or run it for 12hrs on/off)[edit: or keep it on and just remove the collection cup]
this should help set you on the path to winning
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Peair
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It looks like it is too far gone to let it pass, the good news is you don’t have much corals in there and it will be easy to clean, take out rock and clean, vacuum the sand, clean all the glass, change filters, try and get all parameters in range and then treat any that are out of range, do a 30% water change, it should look like new.
Help me identify this algae please! It’s taking over and my water looks like crap too. My Nitrate and phosphate bottomed out a few days ago. Tank is only 3 months old.
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Mwatts12
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Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?
I don't know what percentage of folks had luck battling dinos with any of the methods in the old Dino thread but it's obviously a very low percentage, so I'd like refresh folks on the natural alternatives and lay out three areas of info: some of the factors that contribute to a dino outbreak...
www.reef2reef.com
Yes, I’m sure a water change will cure it…….
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Uncle99
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Nitrate and phosphate zero which favors pest type stuff.
You must have trace nutrients stable in the traditional bands so the goods guys can outcompete that crap, then it goes on its own over months.
If that is Dinos, they multiply real fast so it becomes a numbers game, reduce their numbers daily until good guy algae and bacteria are ready.
Forget PH.
You must have trace nutrients stable in the traditional bands so the goods guys can outcompete that crap, then it goes on its own over months.
If that is Dinos, they multiply real fast so it becomes a numbers game, reduce their numbers daily until good guy algae and bacteria are ready.
Forget PH.
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Dburr1014
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No water changes, nutrients is what you need.
Microscope to see what your dealing with. Do they spin like tops?
H2o2 helps, UV if they go in the water column.
Why all for reef? You have no coral that I see. Nothing using all for reef.
Feed that tank! No nutrient export.
Edit: found this thread, you have seen them, does it look like these?
Thread 'Dinoflagellate ID' https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dinoflagellate-id.687674/
Microscope to see what your dealing with. Do they spin like tops?
H2o2 helps, UV if they go in the water column.
Why all for reef? You have no coral that I see. Nothing using all for reef.
Feed that tank! No nutrient export.
Edit: found this thread, you have seen them, does it look like these?
Thread 'Dinoflagellate ID' https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dinoflagellate-id.687674/
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cnjcpb
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I have a frogspawn, colony of zoas and GSP & 1 fire shrimp. I had a clownfish, but lost him yesterday. I never had these kind of problems 15 years ago when I used live rock from FIJI. My calcium, mag, Ph, and alk were all low. The all for reef stabilized those parameters. I need to start mixing my own water. I'm starting to not trust the lfs stuff. Im curious to see if I can raise nitrate with ammonia chloride now that my fish is gone. I removed all chemipure and I am running my skimmer all the way open with the cup drain open to aerate. I did notice a slight color change in my phosphate test last night. Im hoping the nutrients rise. I have blacked out the tank for the next few days as well. I will write a post of my experience and results when all this is done.
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You can buy phosphate to raise that, I would not attempt to raise by feeding more because you only want to raise phosphate not everything else that comes with the food. Ammonia will definitely raise nitrate just go slow, that can be powerful stuff.
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