never had that happen.. HOB also will result in more salt creep over the top of the tank. It will get messy and harder to maintain.
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never had that happen.. HOB also will result in more salt creep over the top of the tank. It will get messy and harder to maintain.
Just not for salt. On a fresh tank. Would be no probNobody is using HOB Filters on large tanks ?
No issues, if its what you wanna do go ahead. Ill continue to say this to anyone, with proper practice and husbandry you can achieve what you want. Pros, can airate the water, some carbon, some mesh bags. Cons, replacing pumps and cleanings witch should be done regardless of the equipment you run.I'm thinking of putting two AquaClear 110s on an undrilled 90 gallon, along with a Reef Octopus HOB-90 Protein Skimmer.
Is there any reason this set-up would not work ? If you are using HOB Filters on a salt-water tank larger than 75 gallons, please post pictures of your set-up, along with your experience - good or bad - doing it this way.
I know that most people will tell me to drill it and get a sump, but I don't want to use a sump if I don't have to.
Thanks everyone for your advice, and for sharing for your experiences. That's really all I was after - finding out whether or not two AquaClear 110s and a Protein Skimmer could handle the bio-load of a 90 gallon mixed reef tank "sufficiently". From what you've all said - the answer is "NO" so...
I have decided to have the tank drilled, and install a Synergy Shadow Box overflow, which I will use with a sump.
Now... I will start researching sumps.
with proper practice and husbandry you can achieve what you want. Pros, can airate the water, some carbon, some mesh bags. Cons, replacing pumps and cleanings witch should be done regardless of the equipment you run.
So if you had to set up a new, undrilled 90 gallon tank today, how would you set it up ?
I don't want to use a Sump, but I feel that I need some type of filtration method. I am also thinking of doing a HOB Refugium (like an AquaFuge2) to grow and maintain Copepods to feed my tank inhabitants. Thanks for your help @Paul B !
But PaulB didn't your basement just flood because of your skimmer? heheheheh My skimmer could never flood because its in my sump LOL
Yeah man you were exactly what you said. Some people don't have the money or just don't want to put another piece of equipment in the closet or be that 1% to have a problem. People think HOB is an eyesore. In my opinion pipes/plumbing is an eyesore. More water is always better for less risk of fluctuations happening as bad or at all. Personally I think just sticking to the question at hand is best. What one thinks is great. Someone has spent way more money than you and would try to push their way, but you can't afford it or have the room for it. So that leaves the question not answered.I'm glad we going some where here.
But on the other hand maybe I was a little direct and stiff in my recommendations but I did it pure out of my own opinions and the years I'm running around in this hobby and see that a best way is to run a reef.
Yes you can even run a 300 gallon on just one HOB and maybe no skimmer.
It all depends what you put in the tank and how good you cycled it and maintain, where there is a will there's a way.
I'm the same, if some tells me there is only one way to do things, it always lights a fire under my butt, my instant reaction is I'm going to prove you are wrong.
I should more put myself in the shoes of the OP and not just advice them what is the best.
If ppl wanna go their route great and I support it, why dip your corals and quarantine them we didn't do that 30 years ago either, same with fish just drop the in the tank after you float them for a few minutes, it was fine 10 years ago.
There ppl that questioning the quarantine process and at the end they don't have a buget in there cause they went with the WIFI/bluetooth feature on their Chinese LED light cause it works great on their $800 smart phone.
Some ppl spend 10K or more on their setup and don't even have corals or fish in there, others just want a yellow tang in a glass box.
All that said there isn't a law into how YOU wanna do this hobby, you'll find out and learn while you go even guys like me.
At the end this is a hobby and it doesn't have to be done perfect.
Heck I never ask for anything I just read and do and while doing it you learn the best, you can read only so much before you can't see the forest due to the trees in front of it.
And if one tree falls and no one is there do you hear it?
I think you made a wise decision on going for your 90 with a sump though but would love to see you start up a 10 gallon tank with a HOB to have that experience as well, even though it's just for a QT.