NJ thousands of dead fish killed by marine algee ?

[Omega0397]

Large algae blooms occurring in coastal waters is nothing new, it happens every year, especially during the summer months. Water that feeds into the ocean is overly rich in nutrients and that causes algae blooms. This is called eutrophication. Since the algae grows so quickly it is inevitable that there will be a large die off as well. When the algae dies, it decays just like anything else and can create low oxygen conditions in the water. Try Googling eutrophication and the dead zone that occurs every summer where the Mississippi flows into the Gulf of Mexico.

 

[Kworker]

It happens, seen it a couple times here around the island. The seagulls sure do enjoy it..

 

[H2O]

Oh no not this again the other news paper said there was no oxygen sucking algee anywhere BBC news is as dumb as it gets they posted this algee bs before the fish even got tested no one seen any killer algee the water was blue clean looking not red so dinoflakes r not a suspect ..post links to oxygen eating marine algee most of them make oxygen I'm not sure if there is one

 

[H2O]

Ok here Earths 90% of oxygen comes from marine algae so its impossible for fish to run out of air
OceanLink | Biodviersity - Ask a Marine Scientist

 

[Dalmatia]

Anyone have idea what algae could that be ?

I'm pretty sure it's got something to do with Cyanobacteria and the bacteria feeding off of the dead cyano. Apparently the bacteria that eat dead cyano take up more oxygen than the cyano can reproduce. Leaving our fish and everything else the deprived of oxygen and prob changing the pH?

 

[clownfitch]

Here is a good explanation for the coastal algae blooms. It happens almost yearly here on the Texas coast. Red tide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dalmatia]

Here is a good explanation for the coastal algae blooms. It happens almost yearly here on the Texas coast. Red tide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Red tide is a outbreak of Cyanobacteria

 

[clownfitch]

Red tide is a outbreak of Cyanobacteria

Here is one from Texas Parks and Wildlife. If you read it you will see that it is in fact an algae bloom and not any type of bacteria. Red Tide FAQ

 

[Dalmatia]

Here is one from Texas Parks and Wildlife. If you read it you will see that it is in fact an algae bloom and not any type of bacteria. Red Tide FAQ

Cyanobacteria? Not algae

 

[Dalmatia]

And cyano isn't that bad if it didn't contribute to a more deadly bacteria that consumes dead cyano

 

[clownfitch]

Cyanobacteria? Not algae

Okay, well here is one from the NOAA. Again, algae. What is a red tide? Please post a source that states Red Tide is bacteria of any type.

 

[Dalmatia]

Read this
http://www.curwensville.org/cms/lib2/PA01000485/Centricity/Domain/111/MONERA.ppt

 

[Dalmatia]

Okay, well here is one from the NOAA. Again, algae. What is a red tide? Please post a source that states Red Tide is bacteria of any type.

Read up on it and you'll know red tide comes from Cyanobacteria and nothing else. In fresh waters they will most likely be green or blue

 

[clownfitch]

Read this
http://www.curwensville.org/cms/lib2/PA01000485/Centricity/Domain/111/MONERA.ppt

I don't see anything in that about Red Tide nor anything that states Red Tide is a bacteria. Red Tide IS an algae bloom that kills MANY fish and marine mammals yearly.

 

[alex_moua]

It is very possible for an algae bloom, thats what they called them. Due to plants growing in the ocean, a certain amount can be released, sometime even a small, and some large amounts. Sad to see these poor creatures die. If not an algae boom then something must be very wrong for these fishes to die in large numbers. :[

 

[clownfitch]

Read up on it and you'll know red tide comes from Cyanobacteria and nothing else. In fresh waters they will most likely be green or blue

Post a source that states Red Tide is ANYTHING other than an algae bloom. :nerd:

 

[clownfitch]

Cyanobacteria? Not algae

What is red tide?
Dr. Tracy Villareal, UTMSI.
Red tide is a naturally-occurring, higher-than-normal concentration of the microscopic algae Karenia brevis (formerly Gymnodinium breve).
This organism produces a toxin that affects the central nervous system of fish so that they are paralyzed and cannot breathe. As a result, red tide blooms often result in dead fish washing up on Gulf beaches. When red tide algae reproduce in dense concentrations or "blooms," they are visible as discolored patches of ocean water, often reddish in color. Source Red Tide FAQ

 

[clownfitch]

Here is specific proof that these algae blooms have happened on the NJ coast. http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dsr/coastal/hab2.PDF Again, nothing mention about cyano.

 

[clownfitch]

I did not call you anything friend. The smiley was me calling myself correct in this debate. I am sorry if you misconstrued my intent. As far as this debate goes, I merely stated that Red Tide was an algae bloom as my sources also indicated and you stated that it was not algae. So algae or not? I say yes it is.

 

[Dalmatia]

No, maybe? It all starts from Cyanobacteria so what ever you wNt to think that's fine but here's more from Wikipedia
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algal_bloom