Possum wrasse has a raisin on head

[Areseebee]

I woke up this morning to my possum wrasse having what looks to me to be an abraison on his head. His only tank mate is a Bangai cardinal and some snails in a 10g. They get along find and rarely actually interact. He did not have this mark before lights off. He ate fine this. Morning and I didn't see a change in his behavior. I've been fighting green hair algae and so have been dosing h2o2. Other than that it's just 2 part dosing (3ml a day). I did a 2 gallon water change probably 2 days ago. Hope these pictures are helpful.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I woke up this morning to my possum wrasse having what looks to me to be an abraison on his head. His only tank mate is a Bangai cardinal and some snails in a 10g. They get along find and rarely actually interact. He did not have this mark before lights off. He ate fine this. Morning and I didn't see a change in his behavior. I've been fighting green hair algae and so have been dosing h2o2. Other than that it's just 2 part dosing (3ml a day). I did a 2 gallon water change probably 2 days ago. Hope these pictures are helpful.

This is bacterial and may have stemmed from an injury
Treatment will be seachem neoplex in a separate treatment tank with added aeration and focus on ammonia level during treatment

 

[JGT]

Raisin.. got a little carried away with the raisin bran for breakfast.

 

[Areseebee]

What the heck, I guess I spelled abrasion wrong and it got autocorrected... Yikes.

 

[Areseebee]

This is bacterial and may have stemmed from an injury
Treatment will be seachem neoplex in a separate treatment tank with added aeration and focus on ammonia level during treatment

I have kanaplex should I get neoplex? I assume it's just kanamycin vs neomycin.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have kanaplex should I get neoplex? I assume it's just kanamycin vs neomycin.

Correct and while kanaplex may work, neoplex is easier on this type of fish

 

[Areseebee]

Is it a bad idea to use a plastic bucket for this (like the home Depot type)? Does the plastic absorb the medication? I'm trying to think about options that I can hear and easily cover. I also have a critter keeper. Otherwise I'll run out and grab a 5 gallon or something.

I will check my LFS for neoplex when it opens in an hour, otherwise it looks like it's a few days out at best. At that point am I better just going kanaplex?

 

[MnFish1]

I have kanaplex should I get neoplex? I assume it's just kanamycin vs neomycin.

You can use kanaplex. They are quite close cousins. I would say a glass 5 gallon container would be better - like a small tank (which should not be expensive) - as compared to the bucket.

 

[Areseebee]

My LFS does have neoplex but it's about 30 minutes drive away. Is it worth going and getting it instead? The price doesn't matter, just want to be sure there's a tangible benefit for the drive.

 

[MnFish1]

My LFS does have neoplex but it's about 30 minutes drive away. Is it worth going and getting it instead? The price doesn't matter, just want to be sure there's a tangible benefit for the drive.

In my opinion - there is no reason - perhaps @vetteguy53081 or @Jay Hemdal have a reason. Generally I find kanaplex to be 'less toxic' overall than neoplex.

 

[vetteguy53081]

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My LFS does have neoplex but it's about 30 minutes drive away. Is it worth going and getting it instead? The price doesn't matter, just want to be sure there's a tangible benefit for the drive.

Trust me, use neoplex

 

[Areseebee]

Ok gonna run get it now and then transfer him when I get home. I threw some filter floss in my 10g this morning, or I could put the filter sock (2 days old) or I could put some small live rock rubble in the qt... What's my best option? Maybe just leave the floss till morning and transfer it over?

 

[Areseebee]

Ok gonna run get it now and then transfer him when I get home. I threw some filter floss in my 10g this morning, or I could put the filter sock (2 days old) or I could put some small live rock rubble in the qt... What's my best option? Maybe just leave the floss till morning and transfer it over?

Or should I just plan on 20ish percent water changes each day before dosing?

 

[smitten with ocean life]

my 11 year old was astounded about a fish with a raisin on its head kind of a let down when i showed her it was just a mis spell

 

[Areseebee]

My sincerest apologies for the unintended click bait!

 

[Jay Hemdal]

In my opinion - there is no reason - perhaps @vetteguy53081 or @Jay Hemdal have a reason. Generally I find kanaplex to be 'less toxic' overall than neoplex.

Kanaplex seems to have more toxicity issues than Neoplex does, but it is species-specific. Kanamycin should be dosed at 50 to 100 ppm every 3 days for 3 treatments, with a 50% water change prior to each subsequent treatment. Neomycin is dosed at 66 ppm every 3 days for 3 treatments.

That said, since this injury occurred overnight, it is too soon to know if there is a secondary bacterial infection (yet).

 

[Areseebee]

Ok so the package says 135 mg per 2 gallon every 7 days. Should I not do that? I'm not sure of the molecular weight of this stuff.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Ok so the package says 135 mg per 2 gallon every 7 days. Should I not do that? I'm not sure of the molecular weight of this stuff.

If the product is 100% Kanamycin, that works out to be a dose of 67.5 mg per gallon. From my reference, the middle of the dose range is 75 ppm. That works out to be 284 mg/gallon. However, that reference (Noga) also states that water changes are needed if dosing every three days. The issue is then, how long does it take Kanamycin to degrade in a tank? I don't know that. For sure, you won't be overdosing it though. Trouble is, many products contain binders and excipients....

 

[Areseebee]

Yeah I'm kind of shocked in the sense that kanamycin definitely doesn't last 7 days for selection in bacterial culture. Not sure about neomycin. Anyways I went with the labels suggestion for now and I can change it if need be. The content label says that it's about 47% neomycin sulfate.

Should I darken out the back of the tank to avoid degradation from the sunlight.

 

[Areseebee]

What should I put in for bio filtration? I'm planning on putting some filter floss that's been cooking for ~18 hours in the main tank tomorrow morning. Should I add some LR rubble?

Second question, he would normally sleep in the rocks, I was hoping he would sleep in the pipes but he doesn't seem interested. He's just kind of laying on the heater from time to time... I don't think it's sickness as he looks fine most of the time, I think he just wants to go to sleep. Is there a good option here? For wrasses that sleep in the sand I used to put a little tupaware of sand in. Is there a parallel things for the rockwork sleepers?