Anyone ever seen a grafted tricolor valida?
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But its not called grafting what you are referring too. in the article its called GFP infections.
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There's an article on it. All grafted acropora in the hobby are from these green proteins not from fusing. Anyway back on topic now please regarding my question. We no longer need to argue the term grafted as to do with corals.
dank reefer
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Just one more piece from the article....
By now you may be asking yourself why the WWC Grafted Cap is referred to as grafted and this is because it was a name used to describe the phenomenon before we realized that there is no grafting of tissue, and that what these corals experience behaves more like an infection of pigments between two corals.
Anyways im with ya... Id still like to see a pic of what you are referring to as the pic from the article you posted I cant see what they are talking about. It looks all green to me ( no swirls)
Anyone can write a article. Anyone can write what ever they want in a article.
I can write a article saying the moon is made of cheese it doesn't make me right or anyone who quotes me.
I mean look up definition of the word grafting.
Do not believe half of what is wrote on the internet.
I can write a article saying the moon is made of cheese it doesn't make me right or anyone who quotes me.
I mean look up definition of the word grafting.
Do not believe half of what is wrote on the internet.
Grafting was thrown around so loosely before the proteins were understood, that it just stuck with big-name Coral companies. They are not true grafts, but the name stuck because that’s what they called them when they made the name. The true definition of grafting found along with fusion.
You have a mutation of proteins, not a grafted coral.
The natural phenomenon of picking up proteins from other algae is not grafting.
WWC never should have called it grafted, and that’s where the confusion comes in. They probably assumed those two pieces of coral grafted together in the ocean, before the scientific studies came out showing the fact they are actually taking up other proteins.
You have a mutation of proteins, not a grafted coral.
The natural phenomenon of picking up proteins from other algae is not grafting.
WWC never should have called it grafted, and that’s where the confusion comes in. They probably assumed those two pieces of coral grafted together in the ocean, before the scientific studies came out showing the fact they are actually taking up other proteins.
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A true grafted coral would take two specimens. What you're seeing is likely just a form of color mutation. My Valida would get the same green swirls when I used to run LED supps with my T5s.
Corals do not pick up proteins from other corals. What a fascinating bit of sci fi. In fact I am unaware of any evidence for eukaryote-to-eukaryote gene transfer, except in a truly few exceptional cases like between sea slugs and their stolen algae. The people who discover such exceptional cases become famous and build careers on them. After a decade in the coral research world I've never come across such a thing. If anyone knows of an actual peer-reviewed paper on such a thing I'd love to read about it.
No.
What happens here is fusion (well documented in corals, and this is what grafting means) or somatic mutation. When a streak of tissue in an otherwise red coral turns green, that is a somatic mutation. Not unusal at all for plants or animals to do this. Just especially beautiful in corals because of the fluorescent protein diversity.
No.
What happens here is fusion (well documented in corals, and this is what grafting means) or somatic mutation. When a streak of tissue in an otherwise red coral turns green, that is a somatic mutation. Not unusal at all for plants or animals to do this. Just especially beautiful in corals because of the fluorescent protein diversity.
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Not a clue. I had a bunch of different frags and colonies in my tank in the same area that was basically getting the same flow and light and this is the only one that this happened too.
I saw your pic and mine looks a little different. You can see areas that is like a brownish pinkish grafting in there too which you also see the polyps are different colors in too.
You may have something like that but from the pic i see all the same green polyps
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I am a little hesitant to jump in here... but here goes. As mentioned by @EMeyer, I too am unaware for any fluorescent or chromoprotein horizontal transmission (acquisition from the water column.) The coral photos are beautiful and I think two possibilities exist. First, the chimera. I saw a few examples on reefs in Hawaii (Pocillopora meandrina colonies being brown and green.) The other is simply a response to a change in environmental conditions, such as the coral growing into areas of higher light and/or water motion. Wish I had a little piece of this colony in the lab for some in-depth analyses.
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I really can't comment other than there are several hundred described colorful proteins (there are probably thousands) and almost all will react differently to environmental conditions.
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