Baby Emerald Crab video update

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so smol
 
That is crazy you have over 100!
It is wild I think it's from two different spawning times back to back. I only have 2 emerald crabs in my tank and personally witnessed two separate spawns from them. I am curious to see how many of them make it to at least eraser head size.
 
How sure are you that they are emerald crabs? From that video they sure look like marine mites. It almost looks like you can make ouf the mouth parts between the legs on the upper half in the direction it's moving.
 
How sure are you that they are emerald crabs? From that video they sure look like marine mites. It almost looks like you can make ouf the mouth parts between the legs on the upper half in the direction it's moving.
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Clear picture of a marine mite with its guts squished out under a slide plate.
 
AI is pretty confident it is crabs.

It even said this was a crab
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and this was a mite
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Which they both look the same to my untrained eye. It even did movement analysis on the video

This is what it says

Looking at the motion-tracking image you uploaded, the organism still strongly resembles a megalopa-stage crab.

Key Details That Support It Being a Crab:


Body Shape: The rounded central body with extended appendages is characteristic of a young crab in transition to the juvenile stage.
Leg Positioning: The appendages are spaced in a way that suggests a crustacean structure rather than the compact, radial leg structure of mites.
No Signs of a Mite-Like Mouthpart: Marine mites usually have piercing mouthparts, which aren’t visible in this image.
Underside Similarity to Known Megalopa Crabs: The general structure of this underside closely resembles published images of megalopa-stage crabs in scientific studies.

Final Call:
99% sure it’s a megalopa-stage crab. (likely emerald or pom-pom). If you see them settling and starting to molt, you’re witnessing the rare event of captive crab development!
 
Ordered a hand held microscope to see if I can get a better look than trying to hold a jewelers loop perfectly aligned while holding my phone while trying to take a picture lol

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Hope I see this
 
AI is pretty confident it is crabs.

It even said this was a crab
1740514375390.png

and this was a mite
1740514419261.png


Which they both look the same to my untrained eye. It even did movement analysis on the video

This is what it says

Looking at the motion-tracking image you uploaded, the organism still strongly resembles a megalopa-stage crab.

Key Details That Support It Being a Crab:


Body Shape: The rounded central body with extended appendages is characteristic of a young crab in transition to the juvenile stage.
Leg Positioning: The appendages are spaced in a way that suggests a crustacean structure rather than the compact, radial leg structure of mites.
No Signs of a Mite-Like Mouthpart: Marine mites usually have piercing mouthparts, which aren’t visible in this image.
Underside Similarity to Known Megalopa Crabs: The general structure of this underside closely resembles published images of megalopa-stage crabs in scientific studies.

Final Call:
99% sure it’s a megalopa-stage crab. (likely emerald or pom-pom). If you see them settling and starting to molt, you’re witnessing the rare event of captive crab development!
I would be hesitant to put a lot of trust into AI identification without knowing the resources used to train it. The photos of the mite and your photos look nearly identical to my eyes. And i do not see the tail that would indicate a megalopa stage crab. Im interested to see what you find with some better observations under a microscope.
 
They were 1-3mm in length maybe up to 4mm. Just big enough for you to be able to see them on the glass and my first time observing them i thought they were baby crabs as well.
These guys are around ~0.1mm on my glass
 
AI is pretty confident it is crabs.

It even said this was a crab
1740514375390.png

and this was a mite
1740514419261.png


Which they both look the same to my untrained eye. It even did movement analysis on the video

This is what it says

Looking at the motion-tracking image you uploaded, the organism still strongly resembles a megalopa-stage crab.

Key Details That Support It Being a Crab:


Body Shape: The rounded central body with extended appendages is characteristic of a young crab in transition to the juvenile stage.
Leg Positioning: The appendages are spaced in a way that suggests a crustacean structure rather than the compact, radial leg structure of mites.
No Signs of a Mite-Like Mouthpart: Marine mites usually have piercing mouthparts, which aren’t visible in this image.
Underside Similarity to Known Megalopa Crabs: The general structure of this underside closely resembles published images of megalopa-stage crabs in scientific studies.

Final Call:
99% sure it’s a megalopa-stage crab. (likely emerald or pom-pom). If you see them settling and starting to molt, you’re witnessing the rare event of captive crab development!
The fact that AI is trying to place what type of crab loses all validity to me. Megalopa stage looks practically identical for all crabs.
 
The fact that AI is trying to place what type of crab loses all validity to me. Megalopa stage looks practically identical for all crabs.

It's only trying to place what kind of crab because those are the only crabs in my tank that have spawned. So it's via context it's saying that
 
It's only trying to place what kind of crab because those are the only crabs in my tank that have spawned. So it's via context it's saying that
I was convinced mine were crabs too.... luckily I have a close friend who happens to be an expert on mites and she knew what they were at a glance.
 

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