Black ich?

Frtdrmrose7 · Apr 4, 2019

sean rand said:
How long should i do the NFG regiment?

10-14 days and if I remember they recommend a 25% WC daily.

Frtdrmrose7 · Apr 4, 2019

sean rand said:
How long should i do the NFG regiment?

If they are still in copper use the trifecta. Sorry I missed that.

Frtdrmrose7 · Apr 4, 2019

ngoodermuth said:
I could be wrong (I haven’t used NFG yet personally) but I think @HotRocks has mentioned not using NFG with copper. Rather using the trifecta, and following with NFG after copper? Maybe he can chime in and set me straight lol

I believe you are correct. I thought he had removed the fish from copper.

HotRocks · Apr 4, 2019

ngoodermuth said:
I could be wrong (I haven’t used NFG yet personally) but I think @HotRocks has mentioned not using NFG with copper. Rather using the trifecta, and following with NFG after copper? Maybe he can chime in and set me straight lol

You are correct. No setting straight needed.

I would advise against the use of NFG with copper. It contains antibiotics + methalyne blue. The methalyne will completely wipe the biofilter. The combination of all the meds and dying bacteria creates far too low of an oxygen level.

NFG is best used in a sterile tank without a working biofilter using prime to combat ammonia. Or adding biospira to a new tank so the biofilter is established in the presence of NFG.

sean rand · Apr 4, 2019

HotRocks said:
You are correct. No setting straight needed. I would advise against the use of NFG with copper. It contains antibiotics + methalyne blue. The methalyne will completely wipe the biofilter. The combination of all the meds and dying bacteria creates far too low of an oxygen level.

NFG is best used in a sterile tank without a working biofilter using prime to combat ammonia. Or adding biospira to a new tank so the biofilter is established in the presence of NFG.

I did not know that. Thanks for that info. I have used nfg with copper in the past with 0 issues. Just saying

HotRocks · Apr 4, 2019

sean rand said:
I did not know that. Thanks for that info. I have used nfg with copper in the past with 0 issues. Just saying

I have used them together as well. If you only had a couple of fish in a fair sized tank, you may not incur the oxygen issue. Heavily stocked QTs are in major jeopardy. More fish = less oxygen available. It also would have a larger colony of bacteria, which leads to a larger die off and more issues.

sean rand · Apr 4, 2019

HotRocks said:
I have used them together as well. If you only had a couple of fish in a fair sized tank, you may not incur the oxygen issue. Heavily stocked QTs are in major jeopardy. More fish = less oxygen available. It also would have a larger colony of bacteria, which leads to a larger die off and more issues.

Its a 20 gallon long with just those 2 fish in it. I did have a ammonia issue last week but i took care if with biospora

sean rand · Apr 8, 2019

Pictured today. Still eating VERY aggressively. Its not red it black

sean rand · Apr 8, 2019

Doing the trifecta and i just removed them from copper and out them in a sterile tank. any other suggestions?

HotRocks · Apr 8, 2019

Are you feeding metro or GC soaked food? It's not black ich. Looks like Uronema internally.

sean rand · Apr 8, 2019

Im not feeding metro laced food. I will do it. Does it makes sense that regal angel has it also?

sean rand · Apr 8, 2019

sean rand said:
Im not feeding metro laced food. I will do it. Does it makes sense that regal angel has it also?

HotRocks · Apr 8, 2019

sean rand said:
Im not feeding metro laced food. I will do it. Does it makes sense that regal angel has it also?

Very much so. Can you upload photo of the regal? If it's not Uronema it could be bacterial. Either way it's best to attack the water and food in this scenario.

sean rand · Apr 8, 2019

HotRocks said:
Very much so. Can you upload photo of the regal? If it's not Uronema it could be bacterial. Either way it's best to attack the water and food in this scenario.

See prior post with picture from the angek

sean rand · Apr 8, 2019

HotRocks said:
Very much so. Can you upload photo of the regal? If it's not Uronema it could be bacterial. Either way it's best to attack the water and food in this scenario.

Did u see the picture of the angel?

sean rand · Apr 10, 2019

So it got worse on the anthias and the angel is not showing any signs if it. I am dosing metroplex. I want to put the angel in the DT what should l i do?

Frtdrmrose7 · Apr 10, 2019

sean rand said:
So it got worse on the anthias and the angel is not showing any signs if it. I am dosing metroplex. I want to put the angel in the DT what should l i do?

@4FordFamily @HotRocks
Hopefully they will have an answer. Can you post a current pic of the Anthias?

sean rand · Apr 10, 2019

Frtdrmrose7 said:
@4FordFamily @HotRocks
Hopefully they will have an answer. Can you post a current pic of the Anthias?

Its the same just darker red. Im definitely leaning towards uronema. If the angel is not showing anything is he good 2 go in the DT?

4FordFamily · Apr 10, 2019

sean rand said:
Its the same just darker red. Im definitely leaning towards uronema. If the angel is not showing anything is he good 2 go in the DT?

No, complete treatment then. Uronema is likely. 14 days metro and feed metro and focus or the same timeframe. Even if the fish in the same tank aren’t showing symptoms.

I don’t see definitive black ich but uronema is no joke...

sean rand · Apr 10, 2019

Uronema affect

4FordFamily said:
No, complete treatment then. Uronema is likely. 14 days metro and feed metro and focus or the same timeframe. Even if the fish in the same tank aren’t showing symptoms.

I don’t see definitive black ich but uronema is no joke...

Dies it affect angels as well?