Clown not happy

[Darryl]

Ok clown has this on him treating for bacterial infection
Doesn’t look like parasite stumped
He has been like this no change for 6 days eats like a pig is in QT any ideas ?treatment?
Humble ? Any body ?

 

[4FordFamily]

Can you turn off the blues and take some more pics? Are there tons of small dots that almost look like a dusting, is that an accurate observation? Salt or sugar-sized?

 

[Maritimer]

Looking at this guy, I'm thinking velvet ... but at that level of infection, he probably shouldn't be swimming. Brooklynella also might be a possibility.

@melypr1985 or @Humblefish may be able to sharpen the point of your sword . . .

~Bruce

 

[4FordFamily]

Looking at this guy, I'm thinking velvet ... but at that level of infection, he probably shouldn't be swimming. Brooklynella also might be a possibility.

@melypr1985 or @Humblefish may be able to sharpen the point of your sword . . .

~Bruce

This was my thought as well, I’m almost certain that’s velvet now that I’m seeing it on a different device!

 

[Darryl]

Looking at this guy, I'm thinking velvet ... but at that level of infection, he probably shouldn't be swimming. Brooklynella also might be a possibility.

@melypr1985 or @Humblefish may be able to sharpen the point of your sword . . .

~Bruce

it can't be because when i was away this is when it started got home after 5 days and this is it he has been in QT for 6 days so thats 11 days he has been like this .
They are not spots ,grain like or cottony its more like a reaction to a nem sting type of thing this tank has also been up and running for 2 years with its inhabitants there from day one with absolutely no additions of coral or rock or invertebrates just the removal of the carpet the day i left because he had split and only having a fish sitter didn't want them going on walkabouts .And all parameters are Fine!
for the length of time he has been like that he should be dead he i eats like a pig slightly peod from being moved but fine and nobody else in tank has anything wrong

 

[Darryl]

im stumped
not sure what treatment to go with now

 

[Maritimer]

Understood .... With luck, the pros will hop on and pick up on this one. If he's been doing this well for this long, it seems that it must be something that progresses a bit more slowly.

~Bruce

 

[4FordFamily]

Scratch that — looking at the eyes, I see spots on the eyes? I’m wondering flukes. Do a freshwater dip in a dark bucket— if small sesame seed looking things come off, it’s flukes.

That may be a really really bad case of flukes if that’s what it is, perhaps the worst. In fact, if the dip removes them and you treat with prazi twice 5 days apart, this fish will almost certainly need to be treated for secondary infections in quarantine.

If you cannot catch (try surprising it late at night with a bright light and catching it before it can adjust and figure out what’s going on) it, prazipro isn’t going to hurt anything.

 

[Darryl]

since i started him with a bacteria treatment he is looking better and his eye is clearer and the odd thing its only on the right side top with very little on left side when first pulled him it was more like mucus spots thought it look more like he got stung buy carpet.
Now i don't know what to think

 

[Darryl]

i did a fresh water dip and nothing also did a metholene blue after and i guess im stumped because how can any of the most logical things even get in tank because i mean nothing has been added to this tank for 2 years except water and food

 

[Darryl]

Scratch that — looking at the eyes, I see spots on the eyes? I’m wondering flukes. Do a freshwater dip in a dark bucket— if small sesame seed looking things come off, it’s flukes.

That may be a really really bad case of flukes if that’s what it is, perhaps the worst. In fact, if the dip removes them and you treat with prazi twice 5 days apart, this fish will almost certainly need to be treated for secondary infections in quarantine.

If you cannot catch (try surprising it late at night with a bright light and catching it before it can adjust and figure out what’s going on) it, prazipro isn’t going to hurt anything.

his eye is cloudy but clearing up with only a couple of spots still hazy sorry for yucky pic its also like i said only on right top side with a little over the top on left left eye and side is nice and vibrant

 

[Darryl]

he is in melofex and prozzi in qt

 

[Darryl]

Understood .... With luck, the pros will hop on and pick up on this one. If he's been doing this well for this long, it seems that it must be something that progresses a bit more slowly.

~Bruce

Bruce you think i should just go for aggressive velvet/brook treatment or keep the bacterial treatment i will post better picks tomorrow because it is primarily on its right side and top not the left side

 

[Humblefish]

he is in melofex and prozzi in qt

What other meds has he been treated with?

 

[Darryl]

What other meds has he been treated with?

when i got back he had been like this for 5 days it did not look like parasite velvet ik etc.
i started with a fresh water dip 7 min and then metholene blue then put him in QT with bacterial meleflex prozi

 

[Maritimer]

"Bacterial meleflex prozi" ... Do you mean Melafix, the tea-tree oil that claims to cure everything under the sun and moon? (It provides some relief for a few things, IIRC, but actually cures little.) Prazi-Pro? That stuff's great - for flukes, which may or may not be what's affecting your trigger.

Did you see anything come off during the dip?

Apologies for the late reply - nearly 48 hours on the clock in the last two days.

~Bruce

 

[Darryl]

"Bacterial meleflex prozi" ... Do you mean Melafix, the tea-tree oil that claims to cure everything under the sun and moon? (It provides some relief for a few things, IIRC, but actually cures little.) Prazi-Pro? That stuff's great - for flukes, which may or may not be what's affecting your trigger.

Did you see anything come off during the dip?

Apologies for the late reply - nearly 48 hours on the clock in the last two days.

~Bruce

yes after the fresh water dip and methylene blue put in prozipro and QT that has melafix in it as well
Thank You for the response
Not a thing came off him during dip.
So as of today he has hardly and spots and his eyes are completely clear eats like usual and looks like he is getting better
Friday morning 8am he had a slime coating on the right side and that all sloffed off by 9
and he drastically has been looking better since
still puzzled on what it is and where it came from . still think it is the carpet nem that wacked him .
he is in a bacterial med qt at present changed everything out and got script from vet.

 

[Darryl]

ok update
the clown looks almost normal now
i am stumped.
i am going to keep him in QT for the rest of week and then if better move to another tank for more QT.
any ideas ? should i run any other meds ?
i have been doing this for 40 plus years both hobby and professional have seen and cured just about everything and i have never seen anything like this.

 

[Darryl]

ok update !!!!
The Clown is doing excellent and will be returning to DT shortly.
he was put in vet rx bacteria med which healed up the spots that appeared to be a secondary infection and his colors a very vibrant now eats like a pig.
will post pics before transfer and after .
Thanks for all the help

 

[Darryl]

Well he went in last night and everybody happy he is back .
He is doing fine and playing with everybody . (has the evil eye on me though)
will get some better pictures in a day or so don't want to get him to mad at me lolol