Corals Dieing Please Help

[MamaLovesHerReefTank]

Isn't reef roids a more meaty food I'm not really sure ever used it.

Ingredients are marine plankton. That's all it says.

 

[Shaddow_wolf169]

Hmmmmm interesting

 

[MUSBFRANK]

With possible water contaminate issues I always use a polyfilter, especially if your water source may be the problem and additional water changes only hurt the situation, has never failed me. Also, are you not worried about the jawfish jumping out of your tank, or is the top covered with some type of mesh screen?

 

[eLReef]

Is there any chance of a contamination of some sort? Cleaning products? Air fresheners? Anything that may have made its way into the water column somehow?

I don't think so but anything is possible. I haven't used any cleaning products in a while and air fresheners are used in the bathrooms not near the tank.

As stated above check TDS of the water. That would make sense if you are putting metals into the tank and it is not producing pure 0 TDS water. You can do this with an inexpensive TDS meter found mostly anywherre online and maybe at Home depot or somewhere like that. Also you could borrow one from the LFS or a friend maybe. RODI water might be the issue and check ASAP.

I just ordered one through amazon prime. Can you test your aquarium water? or test my RODI water before it's mixed?

How long before the octospawn went down did you change your water?

I did a water change right after every coral died with a siphon to get rid of what ever was left. I was told by the lfs to do that this since they said I might have brown jelly disease.

Your Lepo looks like it is getting stung,possibly from the nearby Favia.Make sure your Euphyillas are not getting substrate thrown on them from the gobies.Keep a eye on anything that may be moving or nipping at them too. Other critters may be causing damage to them if you are direct feeding them.A greedy hermit or shrimp may be digging into them to gather food.Other than what was already suggested you may want to look into Euphyilla specific pest.

Good points thank you. I thought the same but the tentacles don't extend as long. Either way I am open to any ideas. I did move the Mayan sun favia to a different location. I have also tried getting up at night and looking for any signs of pests with a flash light and magnify glass and I have not seen anything.

I may be way out in left field with this. I use reef roids and coral frenzy for my corals as well. I used coral frenzy a couple times to target feed my hammers and other euphyllia. Within a couple days, I noticed they seemed to be dying off. Since then, I don't use coral frenzy to target feed. I broadcast feed with it now and no issues. Never had this problem with reef roids.

Hmmm interesting. I will have to experiment.

With possible water contaminate issues I always use a polyfilter, especially if your water source may be the problem and additional water changes only hurt the situation, has never failed me. Also, are you not worried about the jawfish jumping out of your tank, or is the top covered with some type of mesh screen?

That's a good idea. How often do you replace the polyfilters? If there Is any kind of contaminates/chemicals that might have entered the water would this help remove it? and since it removes phosphates would this eliminate the use of gfo? I do have a mesh screen lol I know these guys are jumpers.

 

[MUSBFRANK]

"That's a good idea. How often do you replace the polyfilters? If there Is any kind of contaminates/chemicals that might have entered the water would this help remove it? and since it removes phosphates would this eliminate the use of gfo? I do have a mesh screen lol I know these guys are jumpers."

The wonderful thing about polyfilters is that it'll change colors when it is exhausted (blue, green, red, brown, ect), once it's a medium of a particular color then I replace it. I'm pretty confident that it'll remove any possible contaminates that may have entered your reef, like I said, any mysterious or unknown water issues, it has never failed me or those I've recommended to. If you want to use it regularly, then testing will let you know if it's as effective as gfo but I've always used polys only.

 

[AnnaVoronina]

Good afternoon!
It is very interesting to use a polyfilter. If you bet it and then use it, for example, Coral Snow KZ to clean the aquarium water, do you take out the polyfluor for the time Coral Snow is used? Thank you, Anna.

I would try, as advised above, to change the water, carbon, Coral Snow and polyfilter.
Good luck) I hope corals will be restored!

 

[eLReef]

Ok here is an update. I have lost another 2 corals since my last post and another one is not looking good. All have been euphyllias. I tested my RODI water with a TDS meter and it reads at 001 ppm. I have removed my carbon and gfo and added the poly filter on Saturday. I also forgot to mention as part of my equipment I have a 15watt UV sterilizer running 24/7. I have been observing my corals daily and everything was fine until 2 days ago the splattered hammer was reseeding and it looked like it had a piece of flesh hanging loose. I did not dip it this time and I left it in my tank for 1 day. I threw it away yesterday to prevent the spread of contamination. This morning my 2 face frogspawn is looking bad. The tentacles are just hanging down. I am starting to think like it was mentioned earlier in this thread that something is picking at the mouth of the corals causing injuries and then disease after? possibly brown jelly? What do you guys think? based on my livestock listed in my thread any suspects? I have seen my cleaner shrimp picking at some of my corals when I target feed. I do it in the day and end up chasing him off but these incidents happened over night. I am thinking of just breaking down my tank and starting fresh since I have so much money invested. Any thoughts, advice and help? I really appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[MUSBFRANK]

Your cleaner shrimp stealing food while target feeding is normal and you don't have anything else that'll pick at your coral besides the shrimp who'll do it now that they're dying, but definitely not responsible for it. Has the polyfilter changed to any color yet? At this point it seems some sort of disease is going around.

 

[eLReef]

Your cleaner shrimp stealing food while target feeding is normal and you don't have anything else that'll pick at your coral besides the shrimp who'll do it now that they're dying, but definitely not responsible for it. Has the polyfilter changed to any color yet? At this point it seems some sort of disease is going around.

The polyfilter is a very light brown. Based on the pictures what disease do you think I might be dealing with that is wiping out all my euphyllias within 2-3 days after showing signs? and what medication or procedure do you advice? Do you think the flesh being ripped off the skeleton of the corals is being done by my shrimp after it has been infected? or it's just the disease that causes it? I would also like to say that within the 3rd day of my corals being affect they smell terrible.. not sure if that would mean anything I'm sure all corals that die no matter how would smell.

 

[AnnaVoronina]

Hi. As die euphyllia, we can assume only a bacterial infection or the introduction of the reagent into the water. From brown jelly help bath iodine from all manufacturers.

If the reason for the filtration system, it is necessary to check the membrane and resin, all filter elements.

Bacterial infection is contagious. From brown jelly take out euphyllia in a vessel with aquarium water, remove syringe damaged tissue, placed in a container of aquarium water and iodine for 20 minutes ( TROPIC MARIN PRO-CORAL CURE 200ml.) , placed in a container of aquarium water and then return to the aquarium.

Sorry, my English is not good.

 

[Ashish Patel]

This is unfortunate b/c based on your initate post it seems you have tried everything right. However, in this hobby its always a non parameter factor excluding Alk and temperature which you can easily pin point. Most of your corals should be able to handle these swinging from time to time. Hammers are very hardy and ive seen them survive in tanks where everything else perishes. Based on my observation its something in the water - chemical perhaps or lack of nutrients, corals releasing toxins causing a reaction. Also, sometimes it better to let the corals recover on their own and never to go to drastic measures to try and correct something you can't even test for....

Good luck and don't get discouraged

 

[Xclusive Reef]

Do you have maybe a Quarantine tank you can move some corals into and see how they do with new RODI water?

 

[kireek]

I am not seeing what looks like Brown jelly disease based on the photos provided.I would definitely lean towards something in the water or unstable water parameters.I did notice substrate on the tissues.It looks like something is throwing sand on them.

 

[eLReef]

Hi. As die euphyllia, we can assume only a bacterial infection or the introduction of the reagent into the water. From brown jelly help bath iodine from all manufacturers.

If the reason for the filtration system, it is necessary to check the membrane and resin, all filter elements.

Bacterial infection is contagious. From brown jelly take out euphyllia in a vessel with aquarium water, remove syringe damaged tissue, placed in a container of aquarium water and iodine for 20 minutes ( TROPIC MARIN PRO-CORAL CURE 200ml.) , placed in a container of aquarium water and then return to the aquarium.

Sorry, my English is not good.

Thank you. what brand of Iodine and measurements do you recommend?

This is unfortunate b/c based on your initate post it seems you have tried everything right. However, in this hobby its always a non parameter factor excluding Alk and temperature which you can easily pin point. Most of your corals should be able to handle these swinging from time to time. Hammers are very hardy and ive seen them survive in tanks where everything else perishes. Based on my observation its something in the water - chemical perhaps or lack of nutrients, corals releasing toxins causing a reaction. Also, sometimes it better to let the corals recover on their own and never to go to drastic measures to try and correct something you can't even test for....

Good luck and don't get discouraged

Appreciate these kind words. Great advise as well. Thank you. It looks like the problem has took a break from my euphyllias. I have 1 hammer left and 3 frogspawns. My polyfilter is still a light brown color. I did notice that my master scolymia has not been opening up as much or extended its tentacles at night for feeding. One night it's mouth was just open and it didn't look good. I tried to target feed it Mysis but it did not take it. Any suggestions? I'll take some pictures.

Do you have maybe a Quarantine tank you can move some corals into and see how they do with new RODI water?

I did set up a small quarantine tank but with no lights. I did try removing a few of my affected corals to this tank but they still died within 2-3 days.

I am not seeing what looks like Brown jelly disease based on the photos provided.I would definitely lean towards something in the water or unstable water parameters.I did notice substrate on the tissues.It looks like something is throwing sand on them.

Yea I'm not sure what it can be then :/ yea on one of my torches a little substrate did land on him from my jawfish. It might have made it worse..

 

[eLReef]

So, I have not lost any more corals for about 23 days until today. I lost 1 bicolor frog and 2 other corals are looking bad. They were perfectly fine and healthy looking the day before. This is what I did the day before. I added 1 tsp of brs soda ash (sodium carbonate) 2 parts to the back of the sump in the morning. I did a 10% water change and added 1 drop of iodine into a 5 gal bucket. I used aquaforest reef salt and a powerhead to mix the salt for about 2 hours. I then added 1 drop of lugol's advanced iodine into the bucket 10 minutes before adding the freshly made water into my tank. A few hours later I added 1/4 tsp reef roids into a small cup with water from the tank and target fed all my corals except any of the euphyllias. I turned off all the pumps for about 10-15 minutes. Then after I only turned the mp40 back on for about 2 hours to have some movement in the tank. After turning on the mp40 I did notice slime from the corals blow around with the pump. After 2 hours I then turned on all the pumps except the skimmer. I left the skimmer off for about 12 hours. A few hours after I fed my fish 1 cube of frozen brine shrimp with 4 drops of bright wells garlic concentrate and 4 drops of Selcon (I only add this once a week). I feel that the answer of what is causing my corals to die is here. Can someone please help me figure out what I am doing wrong. I would like to add that the color of my poly filter is light brown still. Here are my most recent parameters:

Ph: 8-8.1
Alkalinity: 8.2
Calcium: 413
Magnesium: 1,600 ( I don't add any magnesium, I'm not sure why its high)
Iodine: .06
Phosphorus: 12/.03ppm
Salinity 1.026
Temperature: 77-79
Nitrate: 4 ppm

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

The only thing I see there is the soda ash. It may have spiked the ph and alk.

 

[Flippers4pups]

Okay, reading over the entire posts. Where is your source water coming from? Do you buy your RO/DI from somewhere or do you have a RO/DI unit? Maybe chloramines doing them in.

I don't see brown jelly disease here. Doesn't look bacterial ethier. There's something in the water irritating them till they die off.


@saltyfilmfolks , maybe alk and ph related.

 

[kireek]

Sorry for your troubles.I would look into your source water for sure.Continue to perform frequent water test to try and pin point what is going on.Everyday if you can.

 

[eLReef]

The only thing I see there is the soda ash. It may have spiked the ph and alk.

Here is a screenshot of how much my Ph jumped and how much my Alkalinity could've jumped. What do you think? also could it be that my premixed soda ash being almost a year old be the cause?

Okay, reading over the entire posts. Where is your source water coming from? Do you buy your RO/DI from somewhere or do you have a RO/DI unit? Maybe chloramines doing them in.



I don't see brown jelly disease here. Doesn't look bacterial ethier. There's something in the water irritating them till they die off.

@saltyfilmfolks , maybe alk and ph related.

I get my water from the same place we buy our drinking water. I also tested it with a TDS meter and it measured at 0. Can chloramines be detected with a TDS meter? could it be anything else that I am adding or that I did that might be the cause?

Sorry for your troubles.I would look into your source water for sure.Continue to perform frequent water test to try and pin point what is going on.Everyday if you can.

Thank you. I actually keep a log but I'm running out of euphyllias to keep testing.. I have stopped the use of gfo, carbon, coral frenzy, I added poly-filters, I took out my diamond goby. I'm trying to narrow it down. I really believe that the answer is in something I did the day before :(

 

[40B Knasty]

I see you are wearing gloves. Are you dipping your gloves in all the way. Letting water fill up inside the glove? There is no powders on the outside of your gloves. On the inside they use a powder to keep them from sticking to your arms/hands. I know the outside of a latex glove is mostly a cornstarch powder. Not to much to worry about there. I am not sure what they use on the inside of the long rubber gloves.
Also is someone else using the gloves for cleaning when you are not around?
Sorry about the amount of loss you are suffering. I did have 2 melt from Chemi Pure Elite. Which is a GFO. As I was reading through all the posts. I was hoping by the end it might be something as simple as that.