Do we rely too much on technology for our reef tanks?

One big consideration was my wife said 'what about when we go on vacation" well automate to the hilt:)

Yeah that’s a big consideration for me too. Before starting my tank I wanna ensure that if I’m away for a while it can keep going
 
Yes.

Imo if you can't have the aquarium without apex and this and that you shouldn't have it.
What happens when the technology fails? A dead tank.
I know of people who have fully automated aquariums, all built by LFS and programmed by the LFS as well. These people know nothing about reefing. Back in the day either you knew the stuff or you couldn't have it, you were forced to learn.

Each to their own tho.
 
That’s how I feel with an ATO. With the amount of trips I take throughout the year there’s no way I could live without one. I probably should invest in a dose as well!
I'm starting to think about how I can get a pump from my RODI bucket in the garage, and a line under the house and in to the tank to auto top off my ATO. ATO the ATO FTW. :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:
 
That’s how I feel with an ATO. With the amount of trips I take throughout the year there’s no way I could live without one. I probably should invest in a dose as well!
Dose? I used to dose 2-part many years ago and AFR. If you want long trips (like a year? lol) go for a calcium reactor. I don’t touch mine for a year unless I’ll run out of co2 or media.
 
I'm starting to think about how I can get a pump from my RODI bucket in the garage, and a line under the house and in to the tank to auto top off my ATO. ATO the ATO FTW. :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:
It's doable or you can just run straight from the RO to your ATO you have to set up a solenoid and a float valve or you can do what I do and just turn it on and off as needed but even with an alarm on my phone I have flooded my classroom LOL

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It's doable or you can just run straight from the RO to your ATO you have to set up a solenoid and a float valve or you can do what I do and just turn it on and off as needed but even with an alarm on my phone I have flooded my classroom LOL

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Yeah, its mostly getting from the garage down under the house. Probably need to drill a hole thru concrete.

In my house a line from the ceiling like that would be not be wife approved :)
 
I would quit the hobby if I didn’t have my ATO and dosers
 
Tech comes with it's own challenges and risks, but all the tech on my tank allowed me to take a 6 day vacation this past week with a fairly new tank and have no issues. I was even able to eyeball the tank with a camera and adjust my soda ash dosing while sitting on the beach in Mexico because it was dipping for some reason. (likely the extra food provided by auto feeders IDK)
 
I can definitely see how we might become too reliant on technology.

Then again, I work in I.T., specifically focused on visibility, control, and systems automation at speed and scale in extremely large environments (50k to 1m+ endpoints), including SCADA / OT / HMI for manufacturing and energy. While reefing isn't quite the same as running a refinery or pharmaceutical plant, the stakes (though smaller in scale) aren't entirely different.

Automation can be critically important, but also risky if not properly designed, managed, and, perhaps most crucially, maintained. It can also be just as important sometimes not to automate, when it isn't truly beneficial or necessary, or at least to ensure that manual checks of/against the automation systems are done on a very regular basis.

Take automated water changes, for instance, a fairly common goal for a lot of reefers: they remove significant potential for human error - like dropping siphons into sandbeds, accidentally disturbing rockwork or livestock, or removing more water than intended due to distraction. Automation can provide consistency and repeatability, which typically leads to better stability... a big deal in this hobby, just like in many others. Not to mention, it's just that much more likely to actually happen on a regular basis if all you have to do is push a button.

On the other hand, automation can breed a false confidence that everything is "set it and forget it." All automation requires regular observation and upkeep. If you get lax about testing your salt mix regularly, inspecting pumps, heaters, and float switches (or don't keep backup equipment handy), eventually you'll encounter problems. Unfortunately, many reef setups lack sufficient redundancy and fail-safe measures. Not to mention that stability and consisency often have an "out of sight, out of mind" effect, and a nasty habit of resulting in complacency.

While digital systems feel reliable, especially around safety-critical components, they must always have backups... ideally a secondary system of a different design, and even a tertiary backup where possible - especially gauging and measurement systems. That's why most ATO setups (should) have both electronic sensors and secondary mechanical float switches - and these still need to be inspected and tested from time to time. Similarly, I've been advised repeatedly not to fully rely on Neptune or similar systems for automated dosing purely from real-time measurements - I'm sure plenty of people here do it succesfully, but I can also see where it could go horribly wrong.

In the end, automation can be key to spending more time enjoying our tanks and less time working on them. Still, we shouldn't rely on it excessively: we must maintain both our systems and our skills. It's easy to notice when your lights fail to turn on automatically, but are you regularly checking gate valves and emergency drains for clogs, heaters for malfunction, or pH/temp probes for drift? Do you have a checklist and schdule? A whiteboard or notepad and calendar for your tank(s)?

Like any mechanical or digital system, automation can significantly streamline tasks and reduce effort, but only if you understand its limits and maintain it properly. Whether dealing with a literal bug in the system or an unforeseen issue in design, you must always have a plan for inevitable failure to truly reap the benefits. Especially when lives are at stake.

FWIW, the most advanced thing about my freshwater tanks is that most lights are on smart plugs (the built-in timers are either terrible or non-existent), plus an air pump with a built-in battery backup (because most of them run sponge filters). Those tanks are intentionally low-tech and designed for minimal maintenance, because it's totally doable in freshwater.

My reef tank, however, is considerably more advanced: I've got an Apex with an EB8 managing dual 150w heaters, along with ORP, temperature, pH, and SG probes; an ATO with secondary float-switch backup; lights and a pump with built-in timers and Bluetooth app control; plus an automatic fire extinguisher in the stand housing the Apex and EB8, and a manual extinguisher nearby (just in case), and I only expect that to expand over time with dosing pumps and automated water changes. Plus there's significant truth to "what can be measured, can be managed," and real-time visibility and control is where I make my living: a reef can really benefit from it, and automation helps ensure it gets done.
 
Reefing is simply mirroring the rest of our lives. Technological advances have simplified many aspects of our lives. We don’t realize how much our lives are dependent on on these technological conveniences until it actually inconveniences us. Think losing electricity or Internet for more than a few hours… or for some of us, it’s a matter of minutes. ;)

Technology alone doesn’t fix the world. The other two components are people and processes. All three are closely intertwined, you can’t change one without somehow impacting or being impacted by one or both of the other two pieces (welcome to my professional world of digital strategy). If you introduce technology and don’t change your processes, you almost certainly will not realize maximum benefits of that technology, or worst case scenario, your technology will completely fail and/or eventually just be set aside to collect dust.

I believe that technology has made saltwater tanks more accessible to a larger population, and allowed us to generally be more successful. But yes, it has certainly also introduced its share of challenges and opportunities, both at an individual level and community wide.
 
Of course, not. It is way more efficient with technology. Just like the internet and cell phone. Why would you not use it? I know I won't be in the hobby without today's reefing technologies, it's simply too much work and time. And with the cost of corals and fish, the technology is there to help sustain it and alert you if there are issues.
 
I would say, in general yes, most reefers rely too much on technology, and technology is prone to failure.

I don't know how it is in the US, but in Germany sometimes when reef tanks were presented, the first thing that was shown was the technology, especilly the skimmer. The bigger the better. Sometimes it looked like the rocket of the common man.

Technology has also dominated thinking and problem solving in the past.

I think it is better today with generally more beautiful tanks, but the technology, now "behind the scenes", still is important or even dominant. It is good when it makes reefing more safe but not so good when the opposite is the case.
 
(Keep this within TOS)
In a world filled to the brim with all sorts of new and "innovative" technology it has really help convenience many aspects of our reef tanks. From topping off our water automatically, to being able to check our tanks chemical levels away from home. However, do you feel like we are relying to much on technology to keep up with our reef tanks? So I am asking everyone here, are we relying too much on technology to help manage our reef tanks, or is it more beneficial for them?
Yes, the beauty of the hobby is hands on.
 
I sometimes feel like the object of the hobby for some people is all the gadgets and gizmos rather than the aquarium itself. That said, my tank is set up with all the automated stuff I could find so I can actually go on vacations without stressing too much.
 
I don't think I'm a tech guy. Old school float valves from autotopoff.com and digital timers for the win.
 
. Yes, people use/rely on way more Tech. But, some is very helpful and might be needed.

but, IMO, The less Tech, the better.

Tech-i have..--> AI app for 2 primes and Nero 5.

Non Tech. 2 Heaters, skimmer, return pump. I manually add r.o. to sump every other day because..... it takes 15 seconds. Hahahhaa.

90 gallons.
Zero tech problems In 5 yrs.

But... I completely understand the Tech people use, I just want less things that can fail and less outlets with a plug in them. Lol. To each his own.
 
Interesting question, but isn't every bit of this hobby based on technology?

Manufacturing of the tank (glass, adhesives, etc)
Lighting (any kind except from Sol)
Salt mix
H2O preparation (RO/DI or however you do it)
Pumps
Water temperature control
Water parameter assessment
And on and on...

It appears that the fundamental technology of this hobby, which enables us to care for the living organisms we keep, was made possible by technology advancements. Where would you draw the line of "only this much technology is good"?
 
Interesting question, but isn't every bit of this hobby based on technology?

Manufacturing of the tank (glass, adhesives, etc)
Lighting (any kind except from Sol)
Salt mix
H2O preparation (RO/DI or however you do it)
Pumps
Water temperature control
Water parameter assessment
And on and on...

It appears that the fundamental technology of this hobby, which enables us to care for the living organisms we keep, was made possible by technology advancements. Where would you draw the line of "only this much technology is good"?
Great point. Years ago, LED lights with a custom profile would’ve been considered “too much” technology by some purists. (Probably still some who think so, tbh.)

For me it’s about automating the important, but mundane. Can’t tell you the improvements I’ve seen since going to continuous AWC at 1% daily.
 

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