Fleece roller on a Custom Waterbox with 3 drains

[jhadaway]

I've been reconsidering adding a Clarisea 5000 to my new tank but I'm a little confused on how it would work. My new custom waterbox has 3 drain lines on it. 1 main, a secondary and an emergency. They all end up in a long back chamber that I'm guessing minimizes bubbles. I know where it will go but what good would it do only covering the water coming from 1 of the 2 drains? Hopefully the emergency drain won't get wet. Would I need to buy 2 units to make this work? Man that's a lot of cash for 2. Has anyone run into this before?

Thanks,
JOe

 

[jhadaway]

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[kboogie]

Two things. I would avoid the Clarisea and go with a Red Sea REEF MAT 1200. It is a much better built unit. It is easier to change rolls. It has more features for tracking use. The water level sensor is more accurate. It is more flexible. It is just better over all.

Depending on you exact drain setup at most you only need to run two of the drains (the main and secondary) to your fleece roller. The emergency drain shore run directly to you mail sump chamber by passing the fleece roller. You can use a Y fitting to combing the the two drains into a single at the Fleece roller or I have seen people use both sides of the REEF MAT 1200 at once.

I will stress again, avoid the Clarisea Fleecs Roller.

 

[mmorrison55]

If you have the space, I can’t recommend Seatorch fleece rollers high enough.

They happen to have two inlets, so you could run your primary and secondary into it, and then have your emergency dump anywhere into your sump so that you would hear when the water level ever gets that high.

https://www.seatorch.com.au/product...2&_sid=2652f083c&_ss=r&variant=41927399440459
The only drawbacks on the Seatorch is that you have to order them from Seatorch Australia, and unless you order bulk rolls of fleece, you will have to find a comparable size roll from the secondary market.

 

[jhadaway]

If you have the space, I can’t recommend Seatorch fleece rollers high enough.

They happen to have two inlets, so you could run your primary and secondary into it, and then have your emergency dump anywhere into your sump so that you would hear when the water level ever gets that high.

https://www.seatorch.com.au/product...2&_sid=2652f083c&_ss=r&variant=41927399440459
The only drawbacks on the Seatorch is that you have to order them from Seatorch Australia, and unless you order bulk rolls of fleece, you will have to find a comparable size roll from the secondary market.

They look impressive

 

[Krux]

This is a good project.

For starters, you don't need all of the drains to go through the filter roller for it to be effective, some tanks I have seen intentionally only send some of the water through the roller.

On my two drain Waterbox, I ran the primary drain to my Clarisea, and the emergency is set to bypass and dump directly into my skimmer compartment.

I would personally never swap my Clarisea out for a Red Sea model, the Clarisea uses 32 micron fleece, the Red Sea uses 200 micron fleece. I have had to replace the controller once, it was about 30 bucks. Otherwise it has worked flawlessly for 5 or 6 years. It has less moving parts than the Red Sea and goes through significantly less fleece than friends' units, while also filtering finer particles. I recommend looking through the numerous threads of people looking for help getting the Red Sea rollers to operate properly before making a final decision.

Good luck!

 

[exnisstech]

This is a good project.

For starters, you don't need all of the drains to go through the filter roller for it to be effective, some tanks I have seen intentionally only send some of the water through the roller.

On my two drain Waterbox, I ran the primary drain to my Clarisea, and the emergency is set to bypass and dump directly into my skimmer compartment.

I would personally never swap my Clarisea out for a Red Sea model, the Clarisea uses 32 micron fleece, the Red Sea uses 200 micron fleece. I have had to replace the controller once, it was about 30 bucks. Otherwise it has worked flawlessly.

32 micron would strip the water too much for me and would burn through rolls. I shut my reefmat off several nights a week and let it overflow. I suppose it depends on individual goals and nutrients level which one is best. My tank with the reefmat requires dosing to keep N and P above zero and the reefmat is the only mechanical filtration, no skimmer or fuge.

 

[Krux]

32 micron would strip the water too much for me and would burn through rolls. I shut my reefmat off several nights a week and let it overflow. I suppose it depends on individual goals and nutrients level which one is best. My tank with the reefmat requires dosing to keep N and P above zero and the reefmat is the only mechanical filtration, no skimmer or fuge.

Yep, this is why I know of several thanks that only filter half the water... these can get the water TOO clean, especially if a high powered skimmer is on the system.

I dose nitrate to keep my numbers from bottoming out in my system.

 

[jhadaway]

I have seen some 200 micron rolls out now more than i noticed before. I had a klir4 on my wb 100.3 and it was 50 micron. Cleaned like crazy but i was only getting 16 days per roll. I switched to filter floss and cut them in bulk. Thats way over the top for this tank every 3 days and cost the same as a fleece roll. I’ll probably start with 200 micron no matter what brand i get. It might take some work to find them. I’ve seen controller issues with clarisea and motor problems with the red sea. Its a pick yur poison. Deltec is double the price. Thanks everyone great info!

 

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If you have the space, I can’t recommend Seatorch fleece rollers high enough.

They happen to have two inlets, so you could run your primary and secondary into it, and then have your emergency dump anywhere into your sump so that you would hear when the water level ever gets that high.

https://www.seatorch.com.au/product...2&_sid=2652f083c&_ss=r&variant=41927399440459
The only drawbacks on the Seatorch is that you have to order them from Seatorch Australia, and unless you order bulk rolls of fleece, you will have to find a comparable size roll from the secondary market.

We will have SeaToech products soon.

 

[jhadaway]

Im watching for them.