Got the Dangest things going on

[ZoWhat]

Many of you know me. 6ft 180g zoa paly dominated tank. Blah blah blah.

You also may know for months now I have tried to figure out why 20% of my zoas have SHRUNK to tiny head discs.

I've been thru the ringer, tested every parameter, tested PAR, got flow where I want it, git no3 and po4 where I want it.

The shrunken zoa discs are showing signs of life... especially getting no3 around 10 and po4 btwn 0.1 to 0.2

CURRENT QUESTION IN MY HEAD

About the only thing I have left on the table is UNANSWERED is an unseen bacterial infection causing certain zoas (~20%) to show life but still stay shrunken and mostly closed

How would I know its a bacterial infection of some sort?

The majority of the shrunken dudes are GLUED hard into LR. Would take a chisel to remove them and dip them in some sorta antiseptic.

That whole process of removal and dipping would surely kill a good percentage of them. Urgh.

I have just a few that are on plugs 'freehand' to do whatever with..

I've taken them and done a quick h2o2 spray on them for maybe 1min. Trying to see if some sort if infection is running around my tank

I gave the h2o2 Enough time as to they were tightly closed but the h2o2 bubbled white foam on their stem skin.

I quickly cleaned them up and put back in tank and they STILL stay 90% closed up.

Thoughts?

* Thoughts on HOW to determine a bacterial infection?

* How to TREAT without running a broad-spectrum antibiotic killing a lot of good bacteria in my tank maintaining my no3 po4?

I am FRUSTRATED.....

THOUGHTS?


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[PeterC99]

How do you control your NO3 & PO4?

 

[ZoWhat]

Tropic Marin Bacto-Balance

I did just yesterday .... run DETOX to get a lil Aluminum that was in my water test.

I'm down to TWO THEORIES

1) the zoas are urinated-off bc there is a lil Aluminum in the water but the Triton DETOX is just gonna take time for it to rebound

2) I gotta bacterial infection jumping from one colony to another making the zoas close up but not die. The only thing I know is to run CHEMICLEAN but that strips your tank backwards like you are starting over with having to refortify beneficial bacteria

Urgh!

When I find the ANSWER I'm publishing a BOOK

 

[PeterC99]

Have Zoas growing like crazy in my aquarium but I’m concentrating on Acros and torches. Don’t use any chemicals to control nutrients.

Really recommend three natural things (cheap and easy)

1) Refugium with chaeto
2) Oxydator for better oxygen in the aquarium
3) Homegrown phytoplankton everyday

 

[ZoWhat]

Talk to.me about your Oxydator. I have extremely limited knowledge

 

[Hooz]

As you already mentioned, I run ChemiClean cycles every few months in my tank, whether it looks like it needs it or not. I've had good luck with it, and I've not seen any bad side-effects.

Out of curiosity, do you dose aminos or anything?

 

[Utubereefer]

Maybe try adding some diversified bacteria to your tank. I got rock rubble from aqua biomecs and I really think it helped my tank overall

 

[PeterC99]

Talk to.me about your Oxydator. I have extremely limited knowledge

Oxydator’s breaks the Hydrogen peroxide down into oxygen (O2) and water (H2O).

The Oxydator's oxidizing capacity will improve your water quality and many harmful contaminants in your water will be neutralized. Oxydator’s are also an aid to fighting algae problems.

 

[ZoWhat]

So we talking an ozone machine feeding a skimmer....and a ORP probe?

 

[PR_nano]

Following, I have a few zoa's that also shrunk. I believe in my case it was due to low nutrients.

 

[sfin52]

Oxydator’s breaks the Hydrogen peroxide down into oxygen (O2) and water (H2O).

The Oxydator's oxidizing capacity will improve your water quality and many harmful contaminants in your water will be neutralized. Oxydator’s are also an aid to fighting algae problems.

When my zoas starting to look bad I dose the tank with iodide. It really seems to help.

 

[PeterC99]

So we talking an ozone machine feeding a skimmer....and a ORP probe?

No - Oxydator is a simple contraption that you stick in your sump. Periodically you fill it up with hydrogen peroxide. The metal catylist in the Oxydator converts the hydrogen peroxide to oxygen. Easy peasy.

 

[sfin52]

No - Oxydator is a simple contraption that you stick in your sump. Periodically you fill is up with hydrogen peroxide peroxide. The metal catylist in the Oxydator converts the hydrogen peroxide to oxygen. Easy peasy.

Can help the tank during power outages as well. I need to get one

 

[ZoWhat]

Interested... sound like smthg I would be interested in totally messing my tank up with, lol

But seriously. I'm interested. Do you have links, pics so can read more?

A BRStv vid would be awesome

 

[PeterC99]

Can help the tank during power outages as well. I need to get one

Excellent observation!

 

[sfin52]

@najer dont you use an oxidizer?

 

[PeterC99]

Interested... sound like smthg I would be interested in totally messing my tank up with, lol

But seriously. I'm interested. Do you have links, pics so can read more?

A BRStv vid would be awesome

Here’s the one I use for my 90g. You may need the bigger one.

 

[najer]

@najer dont you use an oxidizer?

Here’s the one I use for my 90g. You may need the bigger one.

I would never run a tank without them again.

Sochting Oxydator Help

I purchased 2 Oxydator A, and 3 Oxydator D units for my different saltwater fish tanks. They arrive this week. I plan to run the two A models in my 180 gal tank and the D units in my other tanks. I got them because my electricity goes out often, so I thought using these units in my tanks on a...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[PeterC99]

I would never run a tank without them again.

Sochting Oxydator Help

I purchased 2 Oxydator A, and 3 Oxydator D units for my different saltwater fish tanks. They arrive this week. I plan to run the two A models in my 180 gal tank and the D units in my other tanks. I got them because my electricity goes out often, so I thought using these units in my tanks on a...

www.reef2reef.com

@najer - Thank you for the link and definitely agree that I would never run an aquarium again without an Oxydator! Very surprised more people don’t use them. Funny, that I can tell that it’s time to refill the hydrogen peroxide in the Oxydator just by looking at my tank - corals not as vibrant and a little algae shows up on the sand.

 

[ZoWhat]

@PeterC99 @najer

Questions....

1- How big is the "A" model you pictured above? Inches tall? Width?

[If I get one I'm thinking of putting it on a suction cup shelf inside the display tank. My sump in the basement like 30ft of piping away. I feel whatever O2 was produced would get lost (attenuate) bc of distance]

2- What h202 do you use? Just plain Ole 3% off the Walgreens shelf?

3- How often do you replace these catalyst discs? How can you tell when they need replaced?

4- I assume the unit gets gunky being in SW. How often do you have to clean it?