That is the WaveEngine lite. It is the same size as the XS, X3 and X2. I am not sure on pricing. It is not in stock yet.This is on their website now. Wave engine lite version. I think I’m sold on getting an x2, x3, and WElite
If you need 2 probe ports it is still cheaper to get a X4 than 2 X3's. They might come out with a control unit in the smaller case with the 0-10v ports. Not sure if there would be room for any other ports though.
The probe ports require galvanic isolation which requires more electronic components than the other ports. That is probably the reason there is only one probe ports. Apparently they could not squeeze in another sense port.
It looks like the WaveEngine LE has a 0-10v input port on it. Not sure what the pricing will be. It will power 2 compatible pumps also. It can also provide power to the buss to power other control modules.
I have a Control 4 it is in my garage 35ft from the tank. The only thing not in use is the 0-10v outputs. I would use them for lighting if I can get the signal to the tank somehow. It is in the garage with 2 Control 2's and a Control XS. All the sense ports and all the drive ports are in use out there. I have my three storage tanks and my ATO, AWC, RODI and dosing pumps out there. The Hydros controls all of that and the tank with the 3 control units at the tank And the 4 in the garage. The only thing still on the Archon is the lighting. The Hydros is still a modular system. It just has the brain or head unit distributed between all the modules instead of a single head unit.But it has no sense ports
I appreciate that you can't please everyone (and rarely me!), but the 0-10v is a pretty useful input with a breakout box, yet it is only available on the Control 4 (and the WaveEngines).
I believe that the sort of thing I would use it for (such as physical push buttons for feed and maintenance modes) can be achieved with the sense ports, but it is a bit frustrating to have to consider buying a Control XS to add to the collective, just to do what I could with a single 0-10v port. The other option would be to just rely on the app for the switching, but I think that would frustrate me pretty quickly.
If I decide to go Hydros (and I'm still flicking between Apex, GHL and Hydros) then I'll either have to compromise on what I want or get the Control 4, half of which I don't need.
Is there something specific you are wanting to use the 0-10v input for. I have float switches hooked to the sense ports. If it is to enter a mode that has to be a 0-10v input, but it is probably possible to do what ever you want without entering a mode using a switch on the sense port to do it. If you let me know what you are interested in doing I can give it a try on my system.But it has no sense ports
I appreciate that you can't please everyone (and rarely me!), but the 0-10v is a pretty useful input with a breakout box, yet it is only available on the Control 4 (and the WaveEngines).
I believe that the sort of thing I would use it for (such as physical push buttons for feed and maintenance modes) can be achieved with the sense ports, but it is a bit frustrating to have to consider buying a Control XS to add to the collective, just to do what I could with a single 0-10v port. The other option would be to just rely on the app for the switching, but I think that would frustrate me pretty quickly.
If I decide to go Hydros (and I'm still flicking between Apex, GHL and Hydros) then I'll either have to compromise on what I want or get the Control 4, half of which I don't need.
What dosing pumps do you have? I’m running kamoer x1 pros. I saw you made a custom wire for your pumps on the forum. Do you think that would work with the kamoer?It sounds like you are in to DIY projects. As far as what you have planned for channel 1 you could probably use sense ports but that would be one for each switch and also would require a more complex setup with outputs gut can be done. What you have planned for channel 2 and 3 would require a 0-10v input. Channel 4 can be done with a sense port. I think I have 10 float switches hooked to sense ports. That require 10 sense ports. One thing to remember is hooking more than one switch to a switch port requires them to be momentary type switches with the third party breakout boxes. If you do you on resistor ladder you can do it where the way they are wired that closest switch to the input would have priority.
As far is drive ports go I have 6 in use. Three drive 3 of 4 solenoids used to control my RODI. The forth on in powered by a wifi strip. Three are used to power my dosing pumps. One is used for ATO, another for AWC and the third is used for dosing All for Reef. All three pumps are on the control board in the photo I posted. The two remaining pumps are unused that are in the photo. That is the reason for the 2 Control 2's I have.
The Hydros is modular. Each module is capable of being a stand alone controller or part of a collective. Instead of one module as the brain and the other relying on it on the Hydros each module contributes to the brain when they are in a collective. Once you have a collective if you loose a single member for some reason you only loose the inputs and outputs associated with that member. The others will continue to operate with each other. You will also get an alert if this were to happen. The way outputs and inputs are setup. The actual input or output used can be changed easily. All you have to do is select a different input or output port but you don't need to change any of the rest of the settings. On the outputs you don't even have to assign an actual port to the output for it to work as logic.
The wifi power strips are the only thing that does not act on its own. These are turned on or off by the wifi master of a collective or the controller it is pared with. If for some reason you need to replace one of these you can use the replace function in the app. Doing that it will give it the new strip the name of the old strip it is replacing and assign its oitputs in place of the ones on the old strip. Also the thing to keep in mind when using these is if for some reason they loose connectivity with the controller they will remain in the state they are in until the connection is made again. If they are powered down all the outputs will be off until that connection is made. That is the main reason I use the drive ports for ATO, AWC and dosing. The do have a wired outlet solution in the works. It requires a X4, 2 X2's and a XS to control everything in the garage. That is 3 dosing pumps, 3 solenoids, one mixing pump, one transfer pump and 2 dispense pumps. Below is a screenshot of my storage tank page on my Hydros system. It was to long to fit in one screenshot so I took three. The three tank level inputs are three of the 0-10v inputs on the X4. I also use it for some non aquarium related things also.
Controller Status and Mode status
Inputs
Outputs
I have a Control 4 it is in my garage 35ft from the tank. The only thing not in use is the 0-10v outputs. I would use them for lighting if I can get the signal to the tank somehow. It is in the garage with 2 Control 2's and a Control XS. All the sense ports and all the drive ports are in use out there. I have my three storage tanks and my ATO, AWC, RODI and dosing pumps out there. The Hydros controls all of that and the tank with the 3 control units at the tank And the 4 in the garage. The only thing still on the Archon is the lighting. The Hydros is still a modular system. It just has the brain or head unit distributed between all the modules instead of a single head unit.
You can run a data only cable between the modules
Yes, you can. If it is just 2 control units then you would use a power pack on each one with a terminator built into the power pack. These power packs are available from CoralVue. They have them with or without the terminator. There is also a DIY for adding a terminator resistor to a power pack here https://forum.coralvuehydros.com/threads/diy-terminated-power-supply.701/ . There is a lot of DIY information in the DIY section fo their forum. I have 3 control units at the tank and 5 in the garage. They are all connected in the same collective and act as one large controller with all the inputs and outputs.
